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post #31 of 4017
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Originally Posted by blairh View Post

What are your thoughts on the Lumia 900? Worse ppi than the retina display, of course, but I've always admired Nokia's hardware. I realize WP can't compete apps-wise and I tend to loathe all things Windows, but I'm excited to at the very least try this phone out in an AT&T store. Every time I look at the 3G icon on the iPhone I'm aware of it. I know the next iPhone is coming most likely in 5 months, but still....

I actually really like Windows Phone 7.5. It's far more interesting then Android and offers a lot of advantages that iOS does not. The biggest draw back is the lack of apps. Until the platform takes off better, it's going to be held back by this.
post #32 of 4017
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I actually really like Windows Phone 7.5. It's far more interesting then Android and offers a lot of advantages that iOS does not. The biggest draw back is the lack of apps. Until the platform takes off better, it's going to be held back by this.

How does WP handle software updates? One of the worst things about Android is defragmentation plus not knowing for sure when a specific device will get the latest OS update. One of the nice things about the iPhone is that the latest OS is immediately available upon release.
post #33 of 4017
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Originally Posted by blairh View Post

How does WP handle software updates? One of the worst things about Android is defragmentation plus not knowing for sure when a specific device will get the latest OS update.

That's the thing with Android, it's down to the manufacturers of the phones to provide updates. No one organisation really controls or licenses Android because it's open source, apart from Google with their Nexus phones.

Presumably Microsoft will have control of Windows Phone. They may well roll out updates directly to the phones, like they do with Windows on PCs, or get the manufacturers to do it as part of their Win Phone licensing agreements.
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Originally Posted by blairh View Post

One of the nice things about the iPhone is that the latest OS is immediately available upon release.

Yes because Apple has complete control of iOS, which is solely on their own products.
post #34 of 4017
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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

That's the thing with Android, it's down to the manufacturers of the phones to provide updates. No one organisation really controls or licenses Android because it's open source, apart from Google with their Nexus phones.

Presumably Microsoft will have control of Windows Phone. They may well roll out updates directly to the phones, like they do with Windows on PCs, or get the manufacturers to do it as part of their Win Phone licensing agreements.

It's the biggest problem with Android and doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon. We are still seeing phones being released with 2.3 on them.

My understanding is MS is making sure that older Windows 7 phones are getting updates. It may not be as timely as with iOS, but it's a much nicer experience then we are seeing with Android.
Edited by Jr Mouse - 3/30/12 at 6:05am
post #35 of 4017
Got to play with the Lumia 900 this afternoon. My local AT&T had one. Not on the floor though, the sales rep had it in their pocket and was nice enough to let me mess around with it.

Not really impressed. Feels solid in your hand but it's substantially heavier and larger than the iPhone 4/4S. Impressive colors but text is blurry compared to iPhone's retina display. It's a bit like using an iPad 1 or 2 and then using the 'new' iPad and seeing how much sharper the text is. The only thing that really impressed me was the 4G LTE speed. It's faster than wi-fi. So tight.

I'll be curious to see if the public embraces this model and WP in general.

Another thing, I put the 900 up to full brightness and it still wasn't as bright as my iPhone 4 at 75% brightness. The Galaxy Note was the same. Very odd.
post #36 of 4017
Nokia lost a third of their customers in one quarter by ditching SymbianOS, WTF?
http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/260644/nokia-microsoft-certain-road-death


Anyway, Apple would be stupid (they aren't) to release a phone with a screen larger than what they already have. It's a phone, if someone wants a screen, they'll buy a tablet in addition to or instead.

I see feature bloat creeping up to screw up this entire market except for Apple. Not being able to operate the device, at least as a phone, one-handed is a major drawback.

I even think 7" tablets/color e-readers are stupid.
post #37 of 4017
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Originally Posted by javyn View Post

Nokia lost a third of their customers in one quarter by ditching SymbianOS, WTF?
http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/260644/nokia-microsoft-certain-road-death
Anyway, Apple would be stupid (they aren't) to release a phone with a screen larger than what they already have. It's a phone, if someone wants a screen, they'll buy a tablet in addition to or instead.
I see feature bloat creeping up to screw up this entire market except for Apple. Not being able to operate the device, at least as a phone, one-handed is a major drawback.
I even think 7" tablets/color e-readers are stupid.

I have no experience using Symbian but the UI looked alot more like iOS and Android and personally I prefer that interface compared to WP's 'live tiles'.

I totally disagree that the iPhone screen should not get larger. I think a 4" retina display would be perfect. I find the current 3.5" to be too small and I'm pinching and zooming way too much. I'd be fine with a slightly larger form factor (height and width, equal depth) if it means a 4" retina display. I agree that one-handed operation is necessary and crucial.
post #38 of 4017
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Originally Posted by JMRouse View Post

It's the biggest problem with Android and doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon. We are still seeing phones being released with 2.3 on them.

Many phones here still come with 2.1 and 2.2. My Galaxy S has 2.3 on it, and I'm actually happy with it although it's CyanogenMod 7 rather than Samsung software. CM7 being outside of Samsung's control of course.
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Originally Posted by JMRouse View Post

My understanding is MS is making sure that older Windows 7 phones are getting updates. It may not be as timely as with iOS, but it's a much nicer experience then we are seeing with Android.

Thing is I like Android, because I've been able customise my phone and make it really mine, rather than how the manufacturer says I should have it.
post #39 of 4017
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Originally Posted by blairh View Post

Got to play with the Lumia 900 this afternoon.
I'll be curious to see if the public embraces this model and WP in general.
Even as I am fully satisfied with galaxy nexus, Im gonna give Nokia a shot, too. Soon as it is released on amazon. Dont like MS but the OS seems interesting (hopefully "interesting" doesnt fall into a slow death like WebOS).
Hardware looks extremely compelling. Hopefully the small app ecosystem wont be a hindrance.
post #40 of 4017
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Originally Posted by Trompe le Monde View Post

Even as I am fully satisfied with galaxy nexus, Im gonna give Nokia a shot, too. Soon as it is released on amazon. Dont like MS but the OS seems interesting (hopefully "interesting" doesnt fall into a slow death like WebOS).
Hardware looks extremely compelling. Hopefully the small app ecosystem wont be a hindrance.

It was available this morning at AmazonWireless for a penny. No joke. I think that went for current AT&T customers too. (I know they were offering it for free with a 2 year contract to new subscribers switching from another carrier.) But AmazonWireless had it this morning for a penny for I believe AT&T customers. Pretty crazy.

Demand for the phone must be substantial because AW has now bumped up the price to $49.99. I think WP could eat away at Blackberry's dying audience and take a few customers away from Apple and Android. However they need to catch up apps-wise to really be a serious player moving forward.
post #41 of 4017
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Originally Posted by Trompe le Monde View Post

Even as I am fully satisfied with galaxy nexus, Im gonna give Nokia a shot, too. Soon as it is released on amazon. Dont like MS but the OS seems interesting (hopefully "interesting" doesnt fall into a slow death like WebOS).

Hardware looks extremely compelling. Hopefully the small app ecosystem wont be a hindrance.

It's MS. They are in it for the long term. No way they simply give up on the platform like HP did with WebOS. I see WP eventually becoming a solid 3rd place in the market and that's not a bad place to be sales wise.
post #42 of 4017
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Originally Posted by blairh View Post

I have no experience using Symbian but the UI looked alot more like iOS and Android and personally I prefer that interface compared to WP's 'live tiles'.
I totally disagree that the iPhone screen should not get larger. I think a 4" retina display would be perfect. I find the current 3.5" to be too small and I'm pinching and zooming way too much. I'd be fine with a slightly larger form factor (height and width, equal depth) if it means a 4" retina display. I agree that one-handed operation is necessary and crucial.

I am more than happy to have a larger screen size, but they need to figure out how to do so without increasing the size of the actual phone. Some of those android phones are ridiculous - how would I fit them in my tight jeans??
post #43 of 4017
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Originally Posted by Joffrey View Post

how would I fit them in my tight jeans??

often times the solutions just present themselves to the problem...
post #44 of 4017
I'm going to try out the HTC One X as soon as AT&T has it on the floor. 312 ppi on a 4.7" screen. I have to see what that looks like.

I probably won't make a decision on a new phone until I see the next iPhone, but man am I jonesing for something new. I can't believe John Gruber doesn't think LTE is a 'slam dunk' for the next iPhone. At this point it has to have it and I have no doubt that it will.

HTC One X.

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post #45 of 4017
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Originally Posted by blairh View Post

I'm going to try out the HTC One X as soon as AT&T has it on the floor. 312 ppi on a 4.7" screen. I have to see what that looks like.
I probably won't make a decision on a new phone until I see the next iPhone, but man am I jonesing for something new. I can't believe John Gruber doesn't think LTE is a 'slam dunk' for the next iPhone. At this point it has to have it and I have no doubt that it will.
HTC One X.

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nice to see the android phone design getting better and better -- soft keys, maximized real estate, etc
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