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Originally Posted by A Y View Post

I can't get one until the 30-pin adapter comes out because I use my phone in the car stereo.


Your car uses a built in dock and not a USB port to interface with your iPod/IPhone?

EDIT: OK, I am confused on this and know it's come up several times before in this thread, without a formal answer. The dock adapter is only needed for plugging your iPhone into docks. The adapter itself is what's causing the issue here. If your stereo interfaces with the i-product via USB, then you should still be fine right and have no issues here right? That's my understanding.

Even if you car does have a built in i-product dock, wouldn't it also have a USB port in addition to this? Otherwise they are locking you into Apple's products with your car and only a single one at that.
post #1577 of 4017
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Just got to my local apple store and they have a shit ton of iphones lmao. Just got a ticket for a black 32 gigger and cancelled my pre order
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Yeah, I was walking to target at lunch and passed a radioshack. They had two people with megaphones standing outside begging people to come in and buy iphone 5s
post #1578 of 4017
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Originally Posted by JMRouse View Post

Your car uses a built in dock and not a USB port to interface with your iPod/IPhone?
EDIT: OK, I am confused on this and know it's come up several times before in this thread, without a formal answer. The dock adapter is only needed for plugging your iPhone into docks. The adapter itself is what's causing the issue here. If your stereo interfaces with the i-product via USB, then you should still be fine right and have no issues here right? That's my understanding.

I believe so. If your car uses a USB connection, then you should be fine (leaving aside issues of software compatibility that may crop up with new iOS versions). If your car uses an analog connection (eg. Aux In), then you can either take the signal from the headphone jack, or wait for the 30-pin connector.

The systems in my cars use the 30-pin connector, but they use the analog signals on the 30-pin instead of the digital ones. Audio systems that use USB connections use the digital signals in the 30-pin connector. The Apple Store page for the 30-pin adapter now explicitly says that analog audio output will be supported. Only analog video output won't be.

I could use the headphone jack, but I'd have to go dig lots of wires out of the dashboard, and I'm too lazy to do that. It also won't recharge the phone in the car. Also, I'll be switching to Verizon from AT&T because there's no AT&T LTE here, but there is very good Verizon LTE, so that's another barrier to upgrade, again due mainly to laziness. Anyway, I'm now entertaining the idea of waiting til the 5S.
post #1579 of 4017
Or buy a Aux In adapter that has a USB wink.gif right?
At least that is what I have so hoping it is all compatible.
post #1580 of 4017
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Originally Posted by A Y View Post

I believe so. If your car uses a USB connection, then you should be fine (leaving aside issues of software compatibility that may crop up with new iOS versions). If your car uses an analog connection (eg. Aux In), then you can either take the signal from the headphone jack, or wait for the 30-pin connector.

The systems in my cars use the 30-pin connector, but they use the analog signals on the 30-pin instead of the digital ones. Audio systems that use USB connections use the digital signals in the 30-pin connector. The Apple Store page for the 30-pin adapter now explicitly says that analog audio output will be supported. Only analog video output won't be.

I could use the headphone jack, but I'd have to go dig lots of wires out of the dashboard, and I'm too lazy to do that. It also won't recharge the phone in the car. Also, I'll be switching to Verizon from AT&T because there's no AT&T LTE here, but there is very good Verizon LTE, so that's another barrier to upgrade, again due mainly to laziness. Anyway, I'm now entertaining the idea of waiting til the 5S.


Just surprised that your car doesn't have a USB port in addition to the 30-pin. What brand is it if you dont mind me asking?
post #1581 of 4017
I am sure Mercedes will eventually change the cable

MB has the connector built in that charges the phone at the same time, it is really convenient. Some of them may come with USB connectors but not all. At least not the 2009 C class, unless I dont know where it is.
post #1582 of 4017
If your car has a USB port where the interface cable is removable you can probably use the lightning cable that comes with the phone. If it's not removable or some proprietary auto MFG plug you will need to wait for an adapter or use AUX headphone jack.
post #1583 of 4017
I am trying to backup my 4s to iCloud but it is taking forever. 4 hours remaining, what gives?
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Ok, so I am doing some plan comparisons to see if switching to Verizon makes sense. Verge did a post showing LTE coverage and I had no idea Verizon was that far ahead. AT&T's ok in the main cities I visit, but traveling might prove an issue.

Problem is we would have to do one of these new shared plans and they seem much more confusing to figure out. I have a Verizon iPad 3, so I guess the advantage here is that I could use my shared data with it instead of it's own bill.

Still hesitant on the loss of simultaneous voice and data. It's a useful feature to have in my mind. One big example is using your phone as a GPS on the road. If the GPS pulls data on the go, you wouldn't be able to talk on the cell at the same time. I know that's a use case that I have had many times with my iPhone 4 and the GPS app I have been using. Touch call here...
post #1585 of 4017
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Originally Posted by CalTex View Post

I am trying to backup my 4s to iCloud but it is taking forever. 4 hours remaining, what gives?

Just back up to your computer.
post #1586 of 4017
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Originally Posted by CalTex View Post

I am trying to backup my 4s to iCloud but it is taking forever. 4 hours remaining, what gives?


Did you see when your last back up was before this? It happens automatically when connected to power and on Wi-Fi, overnight. You might have already had a recent back up and no reason to worry about it again.
post #1587 of 4017
I typically back up to icloud but when replacing a device I"ll do a local backup and restore that way with the new device.
post #1588 of 4017
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Originally Posted by JMRouse View Post

Ok, so I am doing some plan comparisons to see if switching to Verizon makes sense. Verge did a post showing LTE coverage and I had no idea Verizon was that far ahead. AT&T's ok in the main cities I visit, but traveling might prove an issue.
Problem is we would have to do one of these new shared plans and they seem much more confusing to figure out. I have a Verizon iPad 3, so I guess the advantage here is that I could use my shared data with it instead of it's own bill.
Still hesitant on the loss of simultaneous voice and data. It's a useful feature to have in my mind. One big example is using your phone as a GPS on the road. If the GPS pulls data on the go, you wouldn't be able to talk on the cell at the same time. I know that's a use case that I have had many times with my iPhone 4 and the GPS app I have been using. Touch call here...

I would take simultaneous voice+data over LTE somewhere besides my home city...Obviously they are working on it (and you will still get 3G speeds just fine) so it will get better over time while the voice+data will never go away.

Isn't AT&T's 4G service supposed to be markedly better than Verizon in the areas where they both exist? Although verizon has agreed to allow tethering as normal usage--I don't think AT&T explicitly allows it yet.
post #1589 of 4017
Got mine today. The Apple Stores did get a good shipment BUT that is because Apple fucked over the other retailers. I have seen numerous threads that Radio Shack and Best Buy pre-orders went largely unfilled. Personally I had a pre-order through BB but they only got in 16 gb black phones. Walmart near me did not receive any. I stopped by my local Apple Store this morning and was able to get one there. By the time I left they still had quite a few BUT depending on the carrier and size they were starting to run out of certain ones namely AT & T. They seemed to have a lot of Verizon though FWIW.

Setting the phone up was cake. Did it from the cloud and it was awesome. Saved my settings and everything. It only took about 20 minutes but I have a good wi-fi connection. Turn by turn worked flawlessly for me today. So far I really like the mapping. I will be driving to Chicago tomorrow and will test it again. The phone looks great and feels better. I feel like I have a better hold of it in my hand. In limited use Siri still needs some work. I think it's fine for straight forward stuff but struggles with words that can have multiple spellings, meanings, etc. This is to be expected I suppose but still makes the use of Siri less appealing to me.

Very happy with the phone. It will only get better as developers get their hands on it and update their apps as well as create some new ones.
post #1590 of 4017
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I would take simultaneous voice+data over LTE somewhere besides my home city...Obviously they are working on it (and you will still get 3G speeds just fine) so it will get better over time while the voice+data will never go away.

Isn't AT&T's 4G service supposed to be markedly better than Verizon in the areas where they both exist? Although verizon has agreed to allow tethering as normal usage--I don't think AT&T explicitly allows it yet.

That's a really good point and I'm taking it into consideration. smile.gif

How often do you guys look over the line items of your bills? The amount of bullshit fees is staggering! "Regulatory Cost Recovery Charge"? Really? You got to be kidding me. Also, what the Hell is a "Texas Universal Service" fee? confused.gif
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