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post #1381 of 4017
On the other hand dictation seems to work a lot better. Especially with SF.
post #1382 of 4017
Going to put my 4 and 4S on 6 but leave my iPad 1 however it came.
post #1383 of 4017
Okay, so Siri works now, I wonder if this means I can finally log into iCloud?

Why does Siri give me a listing of local bars when I asked for escort services?

On the plus side, Safari seems to work much faster. I wonder if this means I have to switch back from chrome. As usual, bookmarks are going to be a mess.
post #1384 of 4017
Is Siri suppose to work on the 4 now?
post #1385 of 4017
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Is Siri suppose to work on the 4 now?


nope
post #1386 of 4017
okay thats what I thought, this girl started asking me questions about why she didn't have siri and how apple could have done better last night, just wanted to make sure what I said was correct. I went all fanboi Pio on her and explained why apple is the greatest company in the world and how the iPhone is the best phone. satisfied.gif
post #1387 of 4017
I upgraded my 4 and iPad 3 last night too. It makes the 4 feel a little faster, but it is kind of crashy on it: when I tried to move some icons around, it reset my phone. This happened twice in a row, and while my phone was talking to iTunes. Some other built-in apps seem to be unstable as well. The iPad 3 works great, as does Siri, though I'm not sure I'll be using it much, especially on the iPad. Turn-by-turn is only on the iPad, but it seems a little silly on the iPad as well.

Maps is not quite the disaster people make it out to, but it is very clear that Apple is years behind Google, and will probably remain there forever unless Google gets out of the map business. I hope Google puts out their Maps app soon. Public transit directions are gone, and that was a godsend in an unfamiliar city, and it worked very well. The 3D interface for the map is surprisingly intuitive with the touch interface, much more so than using a mouse in a 3D CAD program on a PC, for example.

Maps could be a pretty heavy monkey on Apple's back for a long, long time. It is unbelievable the resources that Google puts into maps: there is a lot of high-caliber brainpower working on Maps in Google in addition to the brute-force mechanical Turk stuff described below. And all their data is produced internally, whereas Apple licenses it from outside companies like TomTom.

The Atlantic had an article on Google Maps that illustrates how much effort Google is putting into Maps:

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/09/how-google-builds-its-maps-and-what-it-means-for-the-future-of-everything/261913/
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The sheer amount of human effort that goes into Google's maps is just mind-boggling. Every road that you see slightly askew in the top image has been hand-massaged by a human. The most telling moment for me came when we looked at couple of the several thousand user reports of problems with Google Maps that come in every day. The Geo team tries to address the majority of fixable problems within minutes. One complaint reported that Google did not show a new roundabout that had been built in a rural part of the country. The satellite imagery did not show the change, but a Street View car had recently driven down the street and its tracks showed the new road perfectly.

I like the little refinements, like new tabs in iPad Safari finally (finally!) not placing the input on the search box. I'm glad there's a clock app for the iPad that you can set alarms in.
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It makes me wonder how much Steve Jobs was involved in the development of the iPhone 5. I just can't envision Jobs allowing them to release a maps app that is clearly inferior to a competitor's version from more than 2 years ago.

Jobs was certainly the key figure in the decision to slowly move the company away from being so tied to Google's products. It's well known how he felt about the company and (in his words) Android being a "stolen product." I'd do a little research on this division if you are honestly curious about why all this has been put into motion.

The point -- you are missing it.

Posted for your amusement:

http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/

Apparently, Twitter's abuzz with iOS 6 Maps criticism. Recently tweeted:
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Apple has been forced to apologize for errors in its new maps app. A spokesman for the Utah-based company said engineers were investigating.
post #1389 of 4017
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Originally Posted by A Y View Post

Maps is not quite the disaster people make it out to, but it is very clear that Apple is years behind Google, and will probably remain there forever unless Google gets out of the map business. I hope Google puts out their Maps app soon.

SMH Can we find a middle ground on this maps thing? Google maps was not the greatest thing ever on the iPhone. I use it fairly frequently and it was very typical for the map to have loading issues. Sometimes it would load in a few seconds, sometimes I would have close and re-open several times before it would work. What good is their map if you can't see the fucking thing?

Today I used the new map to get to a sales appointment and it worked perfectly. I have the iPhone 4 so no turn by turn but it still worked and had all of the roads. Their using Tom Tom maps. People are making it like Apple is building it from the ground up and using 4 year olds with crayons to do so. Personally I prefer Garmin but from what I have seen the Tom Tom maps work just fine.

Still can't let go of your precious google maps? Use it in your web browser!!!! Jesus people you are lost if there isn't an app for something. Google has a mobile version as well as the regular version.
post #1390 of 4017
Yeah Google map app on my iphone is wonky as hell and loads like dogshit.
post #1391 of 4017
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The point -- you are missing it.

I got your point, but do believe Jobs would have given it the OK. There is only so much they can do to improve it, internally, without collecting usage data from the millions of iPhone owners. How do you collect usage data? By having the app be in use, by launching it to the public. There came a point that they had to just dive in, even if it was not perfect.

Job's would have had this explained to him and I believe he was determined enough to get them off of being dependent on Google to move it forward.
post #1392 of 4017
i hated the google maps "compass interference, please wave your phone around like a douche so we can sort this shit out" prompts.

not sure if the new maps will make me do this.
post #1393 of 4017
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Originally Posted by A Y View Post

Maps could be a pretty heavy monkey on Apple's back for a long, long time. It is unbelievable the resources that Google puts into maps: there is a lot of high-caliber brainpower working on Maps in Google in addition to the brute-force mechanical Turk stuff described below. And all their data is produced internally, whereas Apple licenses it from outside companies like TomTom.

The Atlantic had an article on Google Maps that illustrates how much effort Google is putting into Maps:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/09/how-google-builds-its-maps-and-what-it-means-for-the-future-of-everything/261913/

Keep in mind the Atlantic article is basically a PR piece for Google. That does not mean there is not a lot of truth to it, but I don't believe they are telling the whole story. The link I posted earlier had an interesting counter argument. That is the large amount of usage data Google is going to lose in this transition.
Edited by Jr Mouse - 9/20/12 at 1:02pm
post #1394 of 4017
I don't think they'll lose a lot, tbh. I'd rather start a petition to tell Apple to stop dumping your money.
post #1395 of 4017
No one should be surprised by Apple's Maps problems. At the same time, there is no reason to believe that it will only get better moving forward and eventually be on par with what Google is providing Android users, or at least close.

I would like to see Google release their own iOS edition in the near future.
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