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Yang Li bomber would be perfect for you, art devil.gif
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RE: Peir Wu
Originally Posted by Ivwri View Post

Yet another Raf intern, Peir Wu.
Her Central Saint Martins graduation collection SS12. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

This was her graduation collection and thus it did not enter production (I believe a few one-off pieces were sold in London). The collection had a narrow focus on the idea of futuristic knitwear. However, many of the concepts and techniques have carried over to the full collection.

HERE is an article from Dazed about her CSM collection.

I've posted the lookbook for the Pier Wu FW12 collection in the FW12 Runway Thread:
Originally Posted by Platypus View Post

Peir Wu Fall-Winter 2012:

525525 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Originally Posted by Lionheart Biker View Post

Any stockists that are now carrying Peir Wu??  Loved that collection you posted.

As Snow mentioned, the Fall-Winter 2012 collection will be available HERE. It will be available / online within the next week.


RE: Yang Li

While I've just recently been introduced to this designer (in large part due to a few people here on SF so thanks), I like what I have seen so far. His work seems quite focused and well thought out which are all qualities that make for a promising new designer. Right now, London seems to be the place where many young designers / graduates go the route of starting their own namesake labels and the qualities I mention, in my opinion, are integral in separating the good from the bad.
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looking forward to seeing what Peir Wu outerwear you guys stock, Platypus smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post

+ + + this is just a 2 second sidebar to say how lucky we are to have sipang here + + +
Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

Ditto Parker. Sipang, you da best.

Transfers have been made to your paypal accounts as agreed.

Always a pleasure.

Originally Posted by snowmanxl View Post

Haha! My bad laugh.gif
I meant then
Wait this is an interesting concept! Why would a designer allow for his/her clothing to be "knocked off"
Does this happen nowadays?
Edit: just checked eBay but there isn't much for men. Bill blass, Ralph Lauren etc..
I'm guessing some of the Issey stuff can be unisex? The coat second from the top and the blazer 5th from the bottom would be awesome to make. 5th from the bottom looks like the blazer damir put out in ss12

I'm guessing those are simplified versions of existing designs (technically "designed by Miyake for Vogue" or smthg) so the target market is not really the same.

You also have to keep in mind how much the fashion business / retail has changed in 25 years. I'm not sure knockoffs were really much of an issue before the explosion of commercialism, the rise of celebrity and status-symbol culture and the appearance of fast fashion in the 90s. I think the article below has been posted earlier already but it's worth a quick read.

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That's So Last Century


When the the New York Times Sunday Styles section debuted on May 3, 1992, fashion wasn't as fashionable as it is today. Style and design had not yet infiltrated every aspect of bourgeois life. Back in the late 20th century, fashion wasn't the global lingua franca, but Sunday Styles helped usher in a new era.

New York, the fashion capital, was a different city twenty years ago, a place where residents ordered their morning coffee "regular" or "dark and sweet" at delis and street carts because the first Starbucks would not open in Manhattan until 1994. If you wanted to shop at Barneys New York, you schlepped to Seventh Avenue and 17th Street, because Pressman family did not open the Madison Avenue flagship until 1993. If you wanted avant garde fashion from Japan and Belgium, you headed uptown to a Charivari, where the Weiser family introduced Yohji Yamamoto, Ann Demeulemeester and Dries van Noten to New York at its stores on the Upper West Side. If you had a foot fetish, you could go to Susan Bennis Warren Edwards on West 57th Street, which sold the most expensive shoes in the city and shuttered its doors in 1997, the same year Charivari filed for bankruptcy after four decades of audacious retailing.

For cheap chic, there was Canal Jeans on lower Broadway; the building is now, tellingly, a Bloomingdale's. You couldn't shop at Old Navy, which opened its first branch in the city in 1995, or H&M, which arrived in New York in 2000. Many now familiar brands were years away from conception: American Apparel (1997), Juicy Couture (1997), Seven for All Mankind (2000).

Fashion was basically an insider's game in 1992, and the players were the small band of editors, writers, buyers, stylists, socialites and photographers who attended the runway shows. To stay on top of the latest news and gossip, you had to subscribe to Women's Wear Daily or you were out of the loop. Styles soon became a must-read, too, but it had a rocky start. The first cover story, "The Arm Fetish," startled many readers by declaring that a "sculptured body is now the foundation of fashion." The article was mercilessly lampooned by the Village Voice with a parody about "The Penis."

There were no tents and no corporate sponsors for the spring and fall collections. Most New York designers held runway presentations in their garment district showrooms with guests being herded into freight elevators alongside the ubiquitous bike messengers. A few of the Young Turks, like Todd Oldham and Isaac Mizrahi, showed downtown in obscure locations. The society dressmakers like Bill Blass, Carolina Herrera and Oscar de la Renta held their shows in ballrooms at the Plaza or Pierre hotels. Fashion Week had not been organized. It was not yet a proper noun.

Neither was the "red carpet." It may be hard to fathom, but there was no formal television coverage of what celebrities were wearing to awards shows until 1995, when E! Entertainment hired Joan Rivers to ask the stars "Who are you wearing?" as they arrived at the Academy Awards. ABC did not have its own pre-Oscar show (besides the one-hour Barbara Walters special) until 1999.

The New York Times critic Caryn James panned ABC's initial 30-minute red-carpet program. She thought it was an embarrassing ordeal for Geena Davis, the Academy Award winning actress, who was the host. "What possessed her to take this inane job, in which she stood on a set inside the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion looking at a huge monitor that showed the red carpet arrivals outside?" wrote Ms. James. "Reading robotically from a teleprompter, she said, 'It's so much fun to catch our first glimpse of the stars as they arrive.' Oh sure."

But the rules of the fashion game were being rewritten by InStyle magazine, which Time Inc. launched in 1994 (with Barbra Streisand on the cover.) InStyle used paparazzi photos to critique and salute celebrities for how they dressed. The coverage not only promoted designer labels (and wooed potential advertisers) but also encouraged the lending of frocks to celebrities, transforming Seventh Avenue into a branch of the entertainment industry.

Hal Rubenstein, the onetime men's fashion editor of the New York Times Magazine, was the mastermind behind InStyle's approach to reporting on fashion. In 2011, the Council of Fashion Designers of America (CFDA) recognized his role by honoring Mr. Rubenstein with the prestigious Founders Award, acknowledging that he'd altered the concept of fashion as much as legendary publicist and CFDA founder Eleanor Lambert.

"He was one of the first to shape the way the world thinks about celebrity," said actress Jessica Alba, who presented him with the award at Lincoln Center last year. "He showed women everywhere how to incorporate red-carpet glamour into their everyday lives."

InStyle pushed the ladies who lunch in their Adolfo suits out of the front row. (Don't remember Adolfo? His Chanel-like knit suits were the uniform for society ladies in the 1970s and 1980s; he closed his East 57th Street salon in 1993.) When the slip dress became the hot look in 1994, the socialites had to surrender their role as fashion arbiters. "I can't wear a slip dress," the best-dressed socialite Blaine Trump told the Times in 1995. "It doesn't work with this body."

Mrs. Trump and her couture-wearing friends on the Upper East Side charity circuit, such as Nan Kempner and Pat Buckley, had been the undisputed stars of Women's Wear Daily and W magazine. Indeed, Mrs. Buckley, an old-line Republican with a keen sense of noblesse oblige, had been the chairman of the Metropolitan Museum's annual Costume Institute gala from 1978 to 1995, running it on a shoe-string like a fancy PTA fundraiser. "Cutting corners is the hardest work of all. I get as much glitz as cheaply as I can," Mrs. Buckley told New York magazine. When Vogue editor Anna Wintour took over in 1995, the gala became big business, and she got Chanel and Versace to be the corporate sponsors.

Ms. Wintour had not consolidated her power yet. She had a rival in the late and beloved Elizabeth Tilberis, who'd come from British Vogue to run Harper's Bazaar. Ms. Tilberis was the chair of the Costume Institute gala in 1996, and she got the world's biggest celebrity at the time, Princess Diana, to add dazzle to the party.

When Ms. Wintour took control again in 1997, she sanctioned fashion's new co-dependence with the movie and music industries. While the guests at the ball included models like Linda Evangelista and power-brokers like Washington Post owner Katharine Graham, they were eclipsed by global celebrities like Elton John, Cher, Gwyneth Paltrow and Madonna.

It was a turning point for fashion and the clubby New York fashion scene as commercialism eclipsed chic. "This party further underlined that the long-waning era when socialites alone, be they nouvelle or old-money, provided enough of a draw for an evening is definitely over." wrote Times reporter Constance C.R. White in her review of the 1997 Costume Institute gala. "

The following year, a sassy, fictional sex columnist became the improbable emblem of New York fashion, when Carrie Bradshaw (played by Sarah Jessica Parker) arrived in an HBO series called Sex and the City. The TV program redefined the notion of how much time, effort and money a young woman on her way up in Manhattan could devote to clothes and beauty.

Carrie Bradshaw turned getting dressed into an extreme sport, making it hip to max out on your credit card in the name of fashion. Ms. Parker was an unlikely style icon. A serious stage actress who'd appeared in plays by A.R. Gurney and Wendy Wasserstein, she was becoming as well known for her red carpet appearances (and later hair-color commercials.)

Until then, fashion was infrequently mentioned on television. Twenty years ago, there were only three shows devoted to the subject: Style with Elsa Klenschon CNN, a 30 minute program on Saturdays that showed clips from the runways with the earnestness of a PBS special; MTV's House of Style hosted by Cindy Crawford; and Canadian Jeanie Bekker's FT-Fashion Television program on VH1 (which led to the live telecast of the VH1 Fashion and Music Awards from the Lexington Avenue armory in 1995.)

Even Charlie Rose, the highbrow PBS host, started interviewing designers such as Donna Karan, Gianni Versace and Giorgio Armani, which prompted the late Times fashion critic Amy M. Spindler to observe that designers were becoming cultural czars: "Now, talk show hosts have adopted them as the latest pop sociologists, providers of Cliffs Notes to the changing role of women, society's general mood of austerity or decadence, and the tempestuous mind-set of the young."

Ironically, some segments of the fashion world were resistant to change, because change had not yet become the sine qua non of fashion. In the fall of 1992, Marc Jacobs famously created an uproar with his "grunge collection" for Perry Ellis. Although it provoked a tsunami of publicity (and inspired a cover article in the Styles section called "Grunge: A Success Story"), the collection did not appeal to department store buyers, and Mr. Jacobs was fired a few weeks later. He would, of course, rebound, creating his own label, getting hired by Louis Vuitton, becoming one of the most influential and famous designers on the planet.

The fashion landscape is not entirely changed from twenty years ago. Bergdorf's, Bloomingdale's and Saks Fifth Avenue remain cornerstones of city chic. The Seventh Avenue royals from 1992 are still easily identified by their first names - -Calvin, Donna, Oscar, Ralph -- and so are Anna and Bill, the reigning magazine editor and street photographer.

Bill Cunningham's first "On the Street" column for the Styles section was titled "Hemlines of the Oracles," and there were photographs of Ms. Wintour and other editors (Martha Baker of New York magazine, Jane Tsiang of Elle and Ms. Tilberis of Harper's Bazaar), but Ms. Wintour was the star of the page. Back then, the big news was always about skirt length. However, Ms. Wintour was not playing along, signaling that she was upending orthodoxy. And so was Mr. Cunningham who followed her around with his camera and a tape measure.

In his first report for Styles, he wrote:

Vogue's editor-in-chief, Anna Wintour, wore her spring suit skirts on both sides of the knee -- though always with high heels. Monday's hem was 26 inches from the ground; Tuesday's hem dropped to 19 inches above the ground; Wednesday's hem moved back up to 21 inches, while Thursday's and Friday's hems were at Monday's length -- 26 inches from the street.

Mr. Cunningham concluded that the variation "speaks clearly for freedom and multiple choice." His words were prescient. Twenty years later, fashion is not only more egalitarian and unpredictable, but also inescapable and unrelenting. Now, Ms. Wintour is co-opting the red carpet and Vogue will live stream (on,, and a celebrity-studded two-hour program as the guests arrive at the Metropolitan on May 7 for the annual Costume Institute gala. Her coup d'etat is complete, and the memories of a cozy and personally-connected fashion community seem rather quaint.

This is all speculation though since I wasn't there and I know nothing about the ins and outs of that pattern business, I believe Vogue still sells some "designers patterns," pretty bland basic stuff probably. Incidentally, YY did a pattern for a jacket that was posted on showstudio or some other website a couple years ago.

The coat could work if you can get the sizing right, I think there's a picture of the finished garment somewhere, the sleeves are short and wide with very low armholes, typical kimono inspired stuff. Yeah that blue short jacket, it's even paired with a long shirt/tunic and dropcrotches (the pattern is for the white shirt I think).
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bastards I reaaallly like cos (and the price point)

Originally Posted by snowmanxl View Post

yeah, those are pretty cool. i like cos.
i was just discussing this with my friend whos visiting london (because she was at a cos store)
they dont have any plans to expand into n.america frown.gif
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Mason Jung

AW12 (made up of "Flat construction" and "camouflage" pieces)

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Very happy that it seems more and more designers are coming up that are approaching clothing in this way. Got intrigued with the stuff I saw on LN-CC and decided to dig a little deeper and see what he was all about. Hopefully he will move beyond the basic structure of the suit and start exploring a few more forms, but the work looks really meticulous and transforming clothes is always something that piques my interest.

His production model also seems to echo that of Aitor Throup in that he has various concepts that he is exploring and then he releases iterations on those ideas. Really like the look of this jacket on ln-cc for some reason. The shoulders and zippers really give it an interesting shape from the side. Also looks like the sleeves could be detachable.
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lol, did you kop it? the link automatically put the item in the basket haha!

with regards to the piece needing to be looked at a few times to grasp, its very true. i looked at the "camouflage" shirt a few days ago then watched this video and took another look at it. i overlooked so many details in the shirt (partly because i viewed it in white the first time and black the second redface.gif )

flat piece construction is perfect for traveling!!
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Wow that's weird. I haven't purchased it actually, but I did place it in my cart for later consideration, hmm...I might later on though biggrin.gif.

And yeah, I had the same experience with the camouflage shirt as well.
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the way he conducted his interview was soothing in a yohji-esque way smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Ivwri View Post


Do you know the name of this model perchance?

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really cool, ivwri. thanks for posting those.
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Didnt really know where to post this, and I know some people in this thread have shown interest in Christophe Lemaire's work... I've handled some of his garments from the new FW collection.

I wasnt impressed by his last SS collection mainly because of the poor choice of materials, but it appears his shapes and cuts work way better with winter fabrics.

Unfortunately I couldnt take any pics, but I plan on going back to the shop next month and grab a thing or two.

My favorite item : the oversized double breasted jacket with shawl collar. It's very boxy and bulbous when closed, so it kinda looks like a blouson and is great for layering.


They also have these wool shirts that can be worn tucked in a pair of pants, as well as a jacket (these are lined), depending on the size you get.


Loved this oversized (and long !) shirt, will grab it with a pair of pants :


LOTS of pants in a large palette of colours and fabrics (soft wool, heavy wool, cotton, wool/cotton blend) :

- Wide and double pleated - nice, but maybe overdesigned
- Very wide on the thighs and tappered from the knee down. Single pleated. My favorite.
- Same as above but double pleated.
- Slightly wide on the thighs and tappered from the knee down (somewhat similar to DVN). Single pleated.
- Same as above but double pleated.
- Straight (maybe slightly tappered), single pleated.

The long coat is very Damir : falling under the knee, wide sleeves. Didnt really like the feel of the fabric, it's a very itchy tweed, also used on some of the jackets.
There's an oversized cotton trench coat that is really nice.
And some gorgeous knits (patchwork and cable sweater, waffle textured cardigan, etc).

Prices are okay too. Most expensive garment was a 900 euros coat, but the jackets are 500/600 euros. Same price point as Stephan Schneider I'd say so sometimes it may appear a bit incohesive.
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Coat by Thamanyah that can be worn normally, or be buttoned in a way to resemble a cape. Pretty neat.

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my god
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