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post #946 of 6250
it's only used in a derogatory way in england, used to denigrate people of south asian background, and where they arrest you for twitter anyway, i don't think it has the same connotation in the US, and would just mean clean-y or cleanliness, really...
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it's only used in a derogatory way in england, used to denigrate people of south asian background, and where they arrest you for twitter anyway, i don't think it has the same connotation in the US, and would just mean clean-y or cleanliness, really...

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post #948 of 6250
why confuse ? nobody in the US uses that, it's british slang. is piob british ? is javyn in england ?
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I forgot. blush.gif
Also, interesting slip above. It's not "Jovan" but rather it's "javyn." Javyn has been active in this thread so should be known to you. Jovan, OTOH, is no longer with us but left his legacy behind.

I was looking to see who you meant, it's spelled several different ways in this thread but it seems to be the same member. Whatever, the use of the word paki is offensive and I am surprised a license gun carrier would succumb to such subjective passions.

I never said I was licensed to carry a gun in this thread.

I have yet to see "javyn" spelled any way but "javyn" in this thread.

There might well be a back story concerning my edit in isstillmatt's post that you are unaware of.

You have yet to inform me between isstillmatt and myself who is defending Z and who/what is posing a threat to one or both of us.
post #950 of 6250
We say Paki here in the US, but it's not meant as a slur, I doubt most of us even know it can be taken that way. We are just too lazy to say "Pakistani" so we shorten it IMO.

Also, I was surprised to find that some Brits thought I was being Anti-Semitic for using the word "Jew". WTF? What a bunch of faggots.
post #951 of 6250
FWIW, I've also never perceived "Paki" to be a slur here in the States. To be honest, I don't hear it much in the first place, but, when I have heard it used, it was never in a context where I would have found it to be a slur.
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FWIW, I've also never perceived "Paki" to be a slur here in the States. To be honest, I don't hear it much in the first place, but, when I have heard it used, it was never in a context where I would have found it to be a slur.

Yeah, we're a bit more colorful with our slurs. Raghead, sandni**er, now those are slurs. Yeehaw!
post #953 of 6250
...and now I present to you a silver lining! We get a reprieve from Fox's plan to bombard us with ads for what sounds like a terrible movie.

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A Ben Stiller-Vince Vaughn comedy filmed in metro Atlanta last year has absolutely nothing to do with the Travyon Martin case, but its ads have been pulled nonetheless.

The movie’s name: “Neighborhood Watch.”

The flick, which filmed scenes all over metro Atlanta last year, stars Stiller, Vaughn, Jonah Hill and Akiva Schaffer. The plot concerns a group of suburban dads who stumble onto an alien plot to take over the world.

But the studio is evidently concerned that the phrase “neighborhood watch” now conjures images of the Martin case. The Florida teen was shot to death by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman.

The movie comes out in July. Twentieth Century Fox has pulled early promotional materials and said in a statement that while the movie obviously has nothing to do with the Sanford, Fla. shooting, the company is “very sensitive to the Trayvon Martin case.”
post #954 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I never said I was licensed to carry a gun in this thread.
I have yet to see "javyn" spelled any way but "javyn" in this thread.
There might well be a back story concerning my edit in isstillmatt's post that you are unaware of.
You have yet to inform me between isstillmatt and myself who is defending Z and who/what is posing a threat to one or both of us.


No you never said that. I don't really care, you're the one ranting about it. I think if you don't carry one that makes your reaction more curious. My impressions are my impressions, about lawyers and gun carriers. Apparently you have turned your impressions into incontrovertible facts with all sorts of safeguards and mine are all suspect. However, I don't see a lot of reasoning on your part. All I see are some investigations to see who I am or where I stand and a desire to keep Z free from being charged. You have your opinion, I have mine. I don't what you're worrying about, the law is so awesome, Z is so in the right and the investigation was undoubtedly handled without any screw ups or bias what could possibly get him charged now?

I was misspelling your name as piobear too. I don't know what your point is, I don't know him or of him. Somehow I am suspect for not posting a lot.


Defending Z: I was referring to you, the other guy was just part of the quote. Quote use on here is confusing for me. Remember I haven't posted much. I haven't got the number you have to prove how much I should be listened to.
Edited by 16-Ton - 3/28/12 at 10:11am
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I never said I was licensed to carry a gun in this thread.
I have yet to see "javyn" spelled any way but "javyn" in this thread.
There might well be a back story concerning my edit in isstillmatt's post that you are unaware of.
You have yet to inform me between isstillmatt and myself who is defending Z and who/what is posing a threat to one or both of us.

I was misspelling your name as piobear too. I don't know what your point is, I don't know him or of him.


I was referring to you, the other guy was just part of the quote. Quote use on here are a little confusing for me.

So if you were referring to me it is your position that I am defending Z and that something here poses a threat to me?
post #956 of 6250
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how does it make sense ? i guess the distinction relies on ancestry, the darker ones being of african descent vs a european one. this fellow doesn't look to be of european descent. he looks like...well I'll be branded a racialist if I say but anyway, I've spent years around people who look quite a bit like him, complexion and all, and none would have self-identified as "white."
i hate to continue on the media-centric debates , but it's just puzzling. as if they want to force the racism angle but only if it's a white perpetrator
Yep.
You do realize most "black" hispanics don't look like Africans either, right? I think it's a very stupid classification system (thank you US Census Bureau!), but it's what the country has adopted. For the most part, the relation seems to be "light skin = white hispanic" and "dark skin = black hispanic".
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The name Zimmerman suggests that one of his parents was white. But I agree. Around here people would mostly identify him as "Mexican", even if he was Salvadoran or Guatemalan.
I agree with this also, which is why I think "white/black hispanic" is idiotic. Labeling people by ethnicity stops working in an interbreeding global population because most people aren't 100% of one thing.
post #957 of 6250
Does anyone here really think the term "white Hispanic" was not used by CNN and the like to bring a black vs. white racial aspect into this? That it is typical "style sheet" at media outlets to use the term "white Hispanic" in such a manner?
post #958 of 6250
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

why confuse ? nobody in the US uses that, it's british slang. is piob british ? is javyn in england ?

My original exposure to it was as derogatory slang (in films originally, and then from my wife, who is South Asian and grew up in the UK), but after GWB used it I learned that Americans also use it non-derogatorily. smile.gif

I'm not clear what you were referring to in terms of it meaning "clean-y". Is that what it means in Urdu?
post #959 of 6250
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So if you were referring to me it is your position that I am defending Z and that something here poses a threat to me?

All I know is you don't like what I'm saying. You haven't said much that makes much of an argument for Z either way. My construction is that because you support Z you like the status quo and feel you can continually demand why there should be a different result (+ call anyone wants a change names) because it's universally absurd that it could go any other way. If that is so, if it literally makes no sense that this case could ever result in a prosecution of Z, then you hardly need to worry. I don't see why you would get personal or angry over something that's an impossibility because it makes no sense?

If you have some other position, let me know. I am not making you guess.

I have told you what I would like to see happen, that I do not know all the facts, that I am prepared to abide by the reinvestigation into the situation and that the law needs to be repealed or rewritten. I have further said that I keep an open mind but for the moment, I believe Z is a bully, a liar and a homicide; one that was enabled by some sort of frontier justice law which is producing a lot of extra tragic outcomes. If you find those positions offensive, I simply don't know what to tell you.
post #960 of 6250
Can we all put 16-ton on ignore? He is cluttering the thread with stupidity and blatant trolling.
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