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Or, maybe his girlfriend is a para at a large lawfirm that has temp projects and he gets to meet many different sorts of lawyer, or his family has used enough law firms for family matters to see the high and low of attorney competency, honesty, greed etc..

So, you are jayvn's Paki boyfriend?

FTFY
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It looks like from the statute the police are asked to make a lot of judgment calls. Did they collect all the evidence in the Zimmeran-Trayvon case? Can we see it? Is it top secret?

So at this point, your main objection is that you have not been allowed access to an ongoing investigation?
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So at this point, your main objection is that you have not been allowed access to an ongoing investigation?


I just want to know why it's difficult to get a statement from Z or the police on such a cut and dry matter. It seems shrouded in mystery.
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FTFY
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Not really. Many instructors teach the "double tap" method which is basically two quick shots. They also teach to shoot "center mass" so that would be the exact spot I would expect the shots to be at very close range.
You have not the slightest fucking clue. Everyone I know with a CCW (about 25 people) is anything but insecure or paranoid and think someone carrying should never confront and always back down, de-escalate, withdraw while carrying. As to needing a gun to intimidate people, do you think you can go around brandishing? Do you not realize that is a crime in most places? "Concealed" is the operative word in "concealed carry" and some jurisdictions even have fines for "printing" (the gun can be seen through your clothing).
Also, about half the folks I know with a CCW are huge men and are intimidating based on their ham-sized fists alone. Additionally, all of those huge guys but one are exceedingly mellow folks, so really, this huge narrative of what the average person with a CCW is like really does not mesh with my reality. That's okay though as I can tell not much of what you think does not mesh with reality.

You are undoubtedly a model of self control.
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Or, maybe his girlfriend is a para at a large lawfirm that has temp projects and he gets to meet many different sorts of lawyer, or his family has used enough law firms for family matters to see the high and low of attorney competency, honesty, greed etc..

So, you are jayvn's Paki boyfriend?

FTFY

I don't know who Jovan is. Is Paki, Pakistani? I suppose this makes sense if you are going to defend Z and get riled by anyone who poses a threat that.
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Did you ever consider that things might look cut and dried from a long distance but that, up close, they are actually quite complicated? Like, say, an alleged murder with no witnesses? I mean, it's easy for you because all you have to do is make a judgment. The police have to make a judgment with serious consequences, and they have all the facts of the investigation, not just the ones that are in the paper.

And Zimmerman doesn't owe you an explanation for anything. Considering that crazies are putting out bounties on him, I think his best choice right now is not to show his face.
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Did you ever consider that things might look cut and dried from a long distance but that, up close, they are actually quite complicated? Like, say, an alleged murder with no witnesses? I mean, it's easy for you because all you have to do is make a judgment. The police have to make a judgment with serious consequences, and they have all the facts of the investigation, not just the ones that are in the paper.
And Zimmerman doesn't owe you an explanation for anything. Considering that crazies are putting out bounties on him, I think his best choice right now is not to show his face.

He could make a video from his secret lair and give it to his friend to upload. I think there are a lot of complications to this case and it's going to get heightened scrutiny now. It easy for me to make a judgment and I am willing to adjust my opinion as the facts unfold. Apparently not knowing the final outcome beforehand makes me a moron, or a homosexual, or a paki, or all three; ask the non judgmental piobear.

I am not justifying a bounty on his head. That's outrageous.
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I don't know who Jovan is. Is Paki, Pakistani? I suppose this makes sense if you are going to defend Z and get riled by anyone who poses a threat that.

Exactly who in the quoted conversation (isstillmatt and me) is defending Z and who is posing a threat to us?
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He could make a video from his secret lair and give it to his friend to upload. I think there are a lot of complications to this case and it's going to get heightened scrutiny now. It easy for me to make a judgment and I am willing to adjust my opinion as the facts unfold. Apparently not knowing the final outcome beforehand makes me a moron, or a homosexual, or a paki, or all three; ask the non judgmental piobear.

I am not justifying a bounty on his head. That's outrageous.

Yes, that would be a fucking brilliant move on his part, given the ongoing investigation. I am sure any lawyer he speaks with will certainly recommend he do this to satisfy people like you.
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Yes, that would be a fucking brilliant move on his part, given the ongoing investigation. I am sure any lawyer he speaks with will certainly recommend he do this to satisfy people like you.

Of course they will. They all have the dumb.
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Zimmerman needs to keep his mouth shut, not deliver Osama style videos from his undisclosed location.

My question is, why are you entitled to an explanation? You aren't involved in this. You don't even live in that city. Probably not even the same state. And the investigation that you feel you are owed is ongoing. But apparently you are entitled to poke around in the investigation to ensure that it is being done to your satisfaction. Do I have that right?
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Yes, that would be a fucking brilliant move on his part, given the ongoing investigation. I am sure any lawyer he speaks with will certainly recommend he do this to satisfy people like you.

Of course they will. They all have the dumb.

I forgot. blush.gif

Also, interesting slip above. It's not "Jovan" but rather it's "javyn." Javyn has been active in this thread so should be known to you. Jovan, OTOH, is no longer with us but left his legacy behind.
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Zimmerman needs to keep his mouth shut, not deliver Osama style videos from his undisclosed location.
My question is, why are you entitled to an explanation? You aren't involved in this. You don't even live in that city. Probably not even the same state. And the investigation that you feel you are owed is ongoing. But apparently you are entitled to poke around in the investigation to ensure that it is being done to your satisfaction. Do I have that right?

My rights are the rights to my opinion, whether you think it fair or not, and the right to demand justice, whether you think it fair or not.

I am not from Florida but I did stay in a holiday inn express once.

I love your avatar, who is that?
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Zimmerman needs to keep his mouth shut, not deliver Osama style videos from his undisclosed location.

My question is, why are you entitled to an explanation? You aren't involved in this. You don't even live in that city. Probably not even the same state. And the investigation that you feel you are owed is ongoing. But apparently you are entitled to poke around in the investigation to ensure that it is being done to your satisfaction. Do I have that right?

Look, his GF is a paralegal and his family has used multiple lawyers on many occassions. He knows his shit and he knows people are not doing this correctly. If you were not such a mindlessly aggressive, mediocre lawyer you would know this.
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I forgot. blush.gif
Also, interesting slip above. It's not "Jovan" but rather it's "javyn." Javyn has been active in this thread so should be known to you. Jovan, OTOH, is no longer with us but left his legacy behind.

I was looking to see who you meant, it's spelled several different ways in this thread but it seems to be the same member. Whatever, the use of the word paki is offensive and I am surprised a license gun carrier would succumb to such subjective passions.
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