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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

In this way, the thread has a certain snake-swallowing-tail air to it.

Like this is a surprise.
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I don't think one can reasonably a single attitude or mindset to the thread generally. Different posters obviously brought different perspectives and different axes grind.

My only axe to grind is that I believe those who are certain that everything is tinged with racism, be they in politics, the media or the internet should be mocked and marginalized. That means you, Lasbar.
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

In this killing of the Australian guy, have you seen the perps referred to as two street thugs and a guy who was too hot blooded?

Haven't followed the "killing of the Australian guy" so I can't say shit about it...

Point is suited is saying he matched the description of people robbing the area, in what way? He was young and black? Is that what fucking matching a description is? Was the neighborhood devoid of black people, must have had quite a few...Racial profiling or whatever was def ok in that case guys, considering it led to some innocent teen being shot by a white Hispanic who followed him for zilch with a nice gun in his pocket.

I mean you and Kunk are both 35-45 white and bald but only the LAPD would shoot your car if they were pursuing him.
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I mean you and Kunk are both 35-45 white and bald but only the LAPD would shoot your car if they were pursuing him.

I'd shoot Kunk. He looks like a roided up skinhead.
post #5539 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post

There is a difference between profiling with what race someone is as part of a demographic breakdown. This is done in marketing all day long and it's not called racism. This is far different than targeting a person based on their race and then acting on it in a criminal manner especially if it involves harm to that person's physical or mental well being. I think most people get these two things confused when the talk turns to being racist, racial hate crimes and so on.

I don't know that most people get those two issues confused, although you're certainly correct that some people do. The issue is compounded by failure of some people to clearly distinguish between the use of those sorts of demographic statistics to measure generalized demographic trends and attempting to use them to make or justify conclusions about particular individuals.
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I'd shoot Kunk. He looks like a roided up skinhead.

Yeah but if he grows a beard he'll look like a leather daddy, you're one hair away from hate crime with this one.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

First, there is still nothing to convince me Zimmerman is racist. This is important as it is a given to tens of millions of Americans that race was got Martin killed. This is just a metaphysical certitude to Martin "supporters."

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Race did play a role in the Zimmerman incident especially at the start of the process when he did racially profile the victim.

If T had been white ,the all sad chain of events would not have happened..

You can argue that point ad vitam eternam but it is a fact .

FACT.

Then again Lasbar has called me a racist in all seriousness on multiple occasions.

Reading Fuuma's replies made me think about something. It makes me wince when Jackson and Sharpton get held up as the voice of black people and where they get their marching orders from. It also makes me wince when Limbaugh, O'Rielly, etc. get invoked in the same way but generally this does not get the same dismissal as invoking Jackson, etc.
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

I'd shoot Kunk. He looks like a roided up skinhead.

He is a roided up skinhead. Just another example of the effectiveness of profiling.
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Haven't followed the "killing of the Australian guy" so I can't say shit about it...

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Very Presidential of you. That's basically what the White House Deputy press guy said when asked about the case.
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A photograph of Zimmerman carrying an umbrella into a theme park during the summer of 2011 has surfaced. When confronted and placed under intense questioning, Zimmerman finally buckled and admitted that he associates dark clouds with rain, and thus planned accordingly the day he visited Six Flags with the two black children he was mentoring at the time. So then, Mr. Zimmerman, in your own words, even the heavens cannot escape the scope of your unbridled bigotry. You sir are a monster, and your eagerness to profile mother nature herself is no doubt yet another trait you have in common with the other misogynistic and privileged white-Hispanic men in this country. It is imperative that you come clean before your indiscriminate hatred is revealed once again, perhaps through a photograph depicting you driving in a convertible with the top up the night you drove that young black woman to your senior prom, simply because you could not control your unwavering distaste of these so called "rain clouds" on that infamous night, a night probably not unlike the one when you took the life of young Travyon Martin, and a night on which you surely chose a white tuxedo over a black one, you disgusting savage.
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Originally Posted by lasbar View Post

Race did play a role in the Zimmerman incident especially at the start of the process when he did racially profile the victim.

If T had been white ,the all sad chain of events would not have happened..

You can argue that point ad vitam eternam but it is a fact .

I don't know that this is true. Nothing he says on the 911 call indicates that he's suspicious because of his race. He doesn't even seem sure what race the kid is at first. I mean, maybe "common sense" leads us to conclude that he's profiling, but "common sense" is often just the name we give our prejudices.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


FACT.

Then again Lasbar has called me a racist in all seriousness on multiple occasions.

Reading Fuuma's replies made me think about something. It makes me wince when Jackson and Sharpton get held up as the voice of black people and where they get their marching orders from. It also makes me wince when Limbaugh, O'Rielly, etc. get invoked in the same way but generally this does not get the same dismissal as invoking Jackson, etc.

Has there ever been someone who said white people got their marching order from 1-2 people? Never heard it in my life or seen it defended in media outside of "things white people like" Coldplay worship jokes. In fact this is precisely why blacks are pissed when they get all lumped together, no one would even pretend there is a "white community of spirit" that makes them take marching orders from 1-2 peeps or even have a lack of multiplicity of opinion within their ranks...
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Has there ever been someone who said white people got their marching order from 1-2 people? Never heard it in my life or seen it defended in media outside of "things white people like" Coldplay worship jokes. In fact this is precisely why blacks are pissed when they get all lumped together, no one would even pretend there is a "white community of spirit" that makes them take marching orders from 1-2 peeps or even have a lack of multiplicity of opinion within their ranks...
you do not receive your marching orders come from Le Pen and Bossi as well?
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Has there ever been someone who said white people got their marching order from 1-2 people?

Yeah, come back when you can prove 98% of blacks supported the same presidential candidate.
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The government is guilty of bad fathering in this case.
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

The government is guilty of bad fathering in this case.

You could be Obama's son.
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