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relevance is a step in the right direction comparative to 90% of posts in CE&M
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Was watching that 48 hours show last night on A&E where a pair of 18 year old black kids shot and killed a pair of sub 18 year old brothers plus two of thier collective friends over $1,200 bucks. Sadly this thread poped in my head and I wondered why JJ and crew didn't show up to protest the whole thing. Yes it's just 6 poor kids from the hood who might not have ever added anything worthy of the "leaders" efforts of raising the black status but it still made me shake my head in disbelief.

This whole thread, all of the by ways and off topic thoughts have only shown what a total waste of good youth we have been facing for the last 100 years. I doubt anything will change but I guess we can be forever hopefull, right?
post #5508 of 6250
This is all BS. We live in a post racial America.

In other news, Trayvon Martin is dead and Gary Ballmer is stepping down as MS CEO.
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My (sort of) hometown just made the front page of CNN.com because two black teens beat a WWII vet to death for absolutely no reason. Where is Al Sharpton, where is Jesse Jackson, where is the outrage???

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Originally Posted by upthewazzu View Post

My (sort of) hometown just made the front page of CNN.com because two black teens beat a WWII vet to death for absolutely no reason. Where is Al Sharpton, where is Jesse Jackson, where is the outrage???

^^right here^^^
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There's no doubt, at least in my mind, a bit of "gotcha" is influencing things at the moment in regards to interracial murder and crimes and that is probably human nature. I think though some more important points are being missed.

First, there is still nothing to convince me Zimmerman is racist. This is important as it is a given to tens of millions of Americans that race was got Martin killed. This is just a metaphysical certitude to Martin "supporters." (And wtf at that term? Supporters? What exactly are they supporting?) There is also no way a person can look at the whole phenomena and not admit the MSM went right for "white man kills black child!" The edited 911 tape that was played repeatedly should be enough to convince anyone the MSM literally helped create the narrative.

Now the MSM is treading very lightly about race in the recent killings of whites by blacks. Let us not jump to conclusions. HEY! Some of the killers are mixed race so it's not racial! White Hispanic anyone? Directly racist tweets are just kids mouthing off, right? Cannot hold that against them.

Another thing I am hearing is that these black killers were arrested and Zimmerman wasn't show the inherent racism in the system. Well, ZImmerman was cuffed and taken into custody. He was detained and questioned for several hours. It's not like the cops on the scene gave him a high five and sent him on his merry way. So it's becoming almost unfalsifiable for people in regards to things. Oh, and never mind arresting murders are what is supposed to happen.

Don't know, just some ramblings and I have to run for several hours of meetings. Hope you guys solve all the world's problems by the time I get back!
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I'm not sure what everyone is getting at here exactly but black people mainly kill other black people and everyone including black people knows it. Let's not turn this into, "oh my god it's so hard to be white these days" type of thing.

Plus I think everyone's outrage at some sort of double standard should be directed at the media not the black community. There is lots of outrage for black on black crime amongst black people but as I've said before nobody else cares or reports on it.
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It's distasteful and useless, but it is perfectly relevant. The thread has always been about the responses of society and the media to interracial killings, the ease with which people target others of different races because of their innate racism and the motives that might spur them on, and never about the killing itself. These seem well within scope of the thread, as much as, at the same time, they don't seem interesting or worth discussing.

In this way, the thread has a certain snake-swallowing-tail air to it.
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It should end with a memorable post.

Like the way Ted Williams ended his career.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Actually I think it came out that the parents killed that baby.

You can use the tweets to shoehorn the Lane shooting, I suppose. It's a bit more complicated, though, considering that one of the kids was white and one was half white. Sounds to me like a kid talking shit on Twitter but whatever.

Bringing in the WWII vet case, though, really adds nothing. You want to start the "black people be killin'" thread, then start it.

I think one was half white, which is generally considered black (see Obama, the first black president), but that none where "all white," for whatever that is worth.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Actually I think it came out that the parents killed that baby.

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The trial is underway, and I haven't heard that. One of the teens being prosecuted has testified that the other teen he was with shot the baby.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post


Bringing in the WWII vet case, though, really adds nothing. You want to start the "black people be killin'" thread, then start it.

I don't think that's necessary. If everyone here is convinced that we have a serious problem, then I suppose you are right and I am just being repetitive by posting this story.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

There's no doubt, at least in my mind, a bit of "gotcha" is influencing things at the moment in regards to interracial murder and crimes and that is probably human nature. I think though some more important points are being missed.

First, there is still nothing to convince me Zimmerman is racist. This is important as it is a given to tens of millions of Americans that race was got Martin killed. This is just a metaphysical certitude to Martin "supporters." (And wtf at that term? Supporters? What exactly are they supporting?) There is also no way a person can look at the whole phenomena and not admit the MSM went right for "white man kills black child!" The edited 911 tape that was played repeatedly should be enough to convince anyone the MSM literally helped create the narrative.

Now the MSM is treading very lightly about race in the recent killings of whites by blacks. Let us not jump to conclusions. HEY! Some of the killers are mixed race so it's not racial! White Hispanic anyone? Directly racist tweets are just kids mouthing off, right? Cannot hold that against them.

Another thing I am hearing is that these black killers were arrested and Zimmerman wasn't show the inherent racism in the system. Well, ZImmerman was cuffed and taken into custody. He was detained and questioned for several hours. It's not like the cops on the scene gave him a high five and sent him on his merry way. So it's becoming almost unfalsifiable for people in regards to things. Oh, and never mind arresting murders are what is supposed to happen.

Don't know, just some ramblings and I have to run for several hours of meetings. Hope you guys solve all the world's problems by the time I get back!

Is it possible that Zimmerman wasn't some hardcore racist or even had perceptions that differ widely from the mainstream of America but that race still played a role? I mean it pretty much OBVIOUSLY did on SF where the scenario was almost immediately of the "let's paint the teenager that got shot as some sort of street thug" variety. It also did in various media viewpoint, from the scenario you outline (white man kills black child) to "there's a problem in the black community so this guy got shot" bullshit you people are only too happy to take from Mr Taco O'Reilly.
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Is America hospitable to the Negro?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTrVXU9Wonw

Wiser minds than mine have discussed this.
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Just curious Fumma, but is it not possible that Trayvon was some sort of street thug?

Or that Z had good reason to be on the look out for young black men considering that there had been several recent robberies in the area carried out by young black men?

I actually agree with your assumption, Z was likely not a ragging racist but race did play a role in his noticing Trayvon. So did age and gender.
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