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post #5221 of 6250
BREAKING NEWS:
Plane lands on collapsed front landing gear at LaGuardia airport, NYC. All safe as George Zimmerman took controls of aircraft.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19741388
post #5222 of 6250
Ruben Navarette asks some of the tough questions today:
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Why the leaders of Hispanic advocacy groups and 501(c)(3) organizations that are supposed to give voice to the voiceless and speak up for Hispanics in their hour of need were silent during the trial and didn't come to Zimmerman's defense despite the fact the defendant was identified as Hispanic early on.

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The dangers of political prosecutions, and what can go wrong when police and prosecutors initially decide that no criminal charges should be filed in a given case only to reverse themselves later after a public outcry and overcharge the defendant with a murder case they couldn't prove.
post #5223 of 6250
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Looks like Zimmerman is in the news again

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432

@AaronFullerton
Apparently Zimmerman rescued someone from an overturned SUV. Which, just saying, is EXACTLY how the racist cop in Crash "redeems" himself.
post #5224 of 6250
252 votes, 190 think it's a VRWC. Incredible.
post #5225 of 6250
Anybody know if Z saved 4 white people, black people or wHisps?

If he didn't save any black people what does it matter anyway?
post #5226 of 6250
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Anybody know if Z saved 4 white people, black people or wHisps?

Heard a very funny and very racist joke in answer to this question at the martini bar tonight.
post #5227 of 6250
TMZ is reporting that those saved are white,

http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/22/george-zimmerman-crash-victims-white/

So the whole thing doesn't count.

Would have been ironic if he saved a black family wearing "Justice for Trayvon T-shirts".
post #5228 of 6250
There's three 911 calls and they make it sound like a pretty serious accident. After they get the folks out it's "smoking really bad" and "looks like it's on fire."
post #5229 of 6250
It reminds me of this: http://www.theonion.com/articles/george-zimmerman-not-going-to-let-one-bad-experien,28722/

George Zimmerman Not Going To Let One Bad Experience Deter Him From Neighborhood Watch Responsibilities
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SANFORD, FL—Out of jail after posting a $1 million bond, George Zimmerman told reporters Monday he remained firmly committed to community safety and had no intention of letting a single unpleasant episode prevent him from fulfilling his regular neighborhood watch duties. "Just because I had one little setback doesn't mean I'm suddenly going to forget my pledge to keep the Retreat at Twin Lakes safe and crime-free," said Zimmerman, adding that his arrest on charges of murdering 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was just a "single crummy day," and he was eager to get back to patrolling his gated subdivision of townhouses for suspicious activity. "So I had a bad experience and it spooked me. So what? I’ve got to dust myself off and try again. After all, they need me out there." At press time, Zimmerman reported that being back behind the wheel of his SUV and quietly scanning his darkened neighborhood streets again "feels good. Feels right."
post #5230 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

It reminds me of this: http://www.theonion.com/articles/george-zimmerman-not-going-to-let-one-bad-experien,28722/

George Zimmerman Not Going To Let One Bad Experience Deter Him From Neighborhood Watch Responsibilities

See. Conspiracy. Not a conspiracy like "Zimmerman set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt" but more like a "The Onion can predict the future like some sort of Bible code"
post #5231 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Ruben Navarette asks some of the tough questions today:
Why the leaders of Hispanic advocacy groups and 501(c)(3) organizations that are supposed to give voice to the voiceless and speak up for Hispanics in their hour of need were silent during the trial and didn't come to Zimmerman's defense despite the fact the defendant was identified as Hispanic early on.


I wondered about that part too. I guess the answer is
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/22/zimmerman-verdict-86-percent-of-african-americans-disapprove/

"Some 60 percent of Hispanics say blacks and other minorities do not receive equal treatment with whites in the criminal justice system, and by a two-to-one ratio, they disapprove of the verdict in the Zimmerman trial."

I thought the interesting thing about this case is that it seems to be almost a perfect proxy for politics, not for race. How populations feel about the verdict (if they have an opinion), seems to break down exactly along how they vote. 85% of blacks say guilty, 60% of hispanics and a reasonably large minority of whites (i. Young people say guilty, old people say not. For the total population, its pretty much 40-40 plus 20 undecided.
post #5232 of 6250
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/23/justice/zimmerman-case/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

DoJ has received all items from the Zimmerman case including his gun for review pending filing charges. Petition on NAACP website has reached 1.5 million signatures demanding federal charges.

https://donate.naacp.org/news/entry/naacp-petition-to-doj-reaches-1.5-million-signatures
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Benjamin Todd Jealous, President and CEO of the NAACP, addressed the specifics of the NAACP’s request.

“It is clear George Zimmerman’s bias played a major role in the events that led to the death of Trayvon Martin. A cousin called the police days after the murder and said, ‘I think he did this because of race.’ He had previously called the police dozens of times, disproportionately about young men of color who he thought were suspect. George Zimmerman himself stated on the night of the attack, ‘These punks always get away with this.’ The law says you must be able to show that race was a factor and that bodily harm was done. We believe there is enough evidence to satisfy this standard.”
post #5233 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/23/justice/zimmerman-case/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

DoJ has received all items from the Zimmerman case including his gun for review pending filing charges. Petition on NAACP website has reached 1.5 million signatures demanding federal charges.

https://donate.naacp.org/news/entry/naacp-petition-to-doj-reaches-1.5-million-signatures

Anyone catch the Salon article on the Obama/Holder dichotomy over the weekend?
post #5234 of 6250
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Originally Posted by zarathustra View Post

Anyone catch the Salon article on the Obama/Holder dichotomy over the weekend?

Did not. Link?
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/23/justice/zimmerman-case/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

DoJ has received all items from the Zimmerman case including his gun for review pending filing charges. Petition on NAACP website has reached 1.5 million signatures demanding federal charges.

https://donate.naacp.org/news/entry/naacp-petition-to-doj-reaches-1.5-million-signatures

How many sigs did they have to first decide to prosecute him on state charges?

EDIT - looks like just under 2.3 million. http://www.change.org/petitions/prosecute-the-killer-of-our-son-17-year-old-trayvon-martin

They'll have to try a little harder to get him federally.
post #5235 of 6250
There was a professor from UC Hastings Law School on NPR this morning, talking about the "Castle Law" in California and how there's essentially a Stand Your Ground Law in California as well but it just isn't named that and, furthermore, it wouldn't have applied to Zimmerman because he was the one who started the fight and so couldn't claim self defense. This last part is what I wanted to call into question and see if it is consistent with the facts of the case.
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