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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

If a white person wants to be treated with suspicion by police it's not that hard. Simply drive through an area known for drug trafficking in an inner city. When I was working in downtown Detroit as a kid I had occasion to drive through areas like this. A green plain Jane Ford Ranger with a white guy driving it at 3:30 am in the Cass Corridor would draw police attention (although I hear the CC has gone boho).

I know from experience that driving while white on certain streets attracts attention from drug dealers and really gross prostitutes. (I was just lost, I swear. And my AC was broken so my windows were down, driving real slowly to read the street signs. Not hard to see where they thought it was going.)
Edited by munchausen - 7/17/13 at 1:25pm
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I don't think it's stupid exactly. There is plenty of racism in our society, both overt and subtle. But on the other hand women living alone need to be careful about strange men, no matter their race.

Alright, but I think he is blowing the Trayvon thing out of proportion so ridiculously that I can't take the article seriously. As has been said throughout this thread, when we start changing our behavior so greatly not just to protect the Martins of the world from getting killed but even to protect the ?uestlove's of the world from feeling uncomfortable, at the expense of reasonable common sense, we're just being silly.
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I hope we can all agree that racism is not just a white issue.
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Thanks Brokencycle - do they break these out by sex of parent and color?

Somebody said here in the last few days that once you factor in SES murder rates are the same. I do not have evidence to the contrary but the only supporting evidence I have seen are two studies done in the south that show SES is the largest explanatory variable in domestic partner murder rates.
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Doesn't surprise me. Family is the bedrock of any civilization.
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Intuitively something tells me murder rates in aggregate differ from domestic murder rates stratified by SES and race. I have no data to back that up.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

If a white person wants to be treated with suspicion by police it's not that hard. Simply drive through an area known for drug trafficking in an inner city. When I was working in downtown Detroit as a kid I had occasion to drive through areas like this. A green plain Jane Ford Ranger with a white guy driving it at 3:30 am in the Cass Corridor would draw police attention (although I hear the CC has gone boho).

That's (one of) the baffling thing about all these "I am not Trayvon" posts: it's almost like they want to be treated worse personally, not see blacks treated better.
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genderqueer, cis-gender, gender-normative, biracial/sexual, heteronormative

Get over yourselves you fucking muppets.
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Get over yourselves you fucking muppets.
I really wish I knew someone like these people, I'd bitch slap the crap out of them.
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

Thanks Brokencycle - do they break these out by sex of parent and color?

Sorry, that's the best I could do.
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Get over yourselves you fucking muppets.

It seems like there's a 1:1 correlation with using any of those terms with a straight (cis?) face and being an absolutely enormous toolbag.
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I had to look up cisgender. I'm ok if we want to invent a word for "not trans", but that's a really shitty sounding one.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

I had to look up cisgender. I'm ok if we want to invent a word for "not trans", but that's a really shitty sounding one.

I don't see the value of those kinds of terms outside of a porn site, and I certainly don't see how it adds relevance to someone's post about how they are not Trayvon to bring it up. More humblebragging.
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You're not just allowed to say that you're "normal" anymore, as that would imply valuation. Or, worse, you're not even allowed to just leave it unsaid and assume that anyone that doesn't clarify is "normal." The fact that trans, homosexual, queergender, etc are much much less common apparently is irrelevant.

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I don't see the value of those kinds of terms outside of a porn site, and I certainly don't see how it adds relevance to someone's post about how they are not Trayvon to bring it up. More humblebragging.
I understand why they're bringing it up. Basically those are all things you can be discriminated against for, so they have to list ALL the things that they're not being discriminated on.
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Wow, I've not clued into that. "Cisgender" just means you're normal?
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