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post #4546 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Agreed. From what I'm reading elsewhere I think he will have attempts on his life made. Apparently a portion of the Trayvon crowd feel SYG laws allow him to be shot on sight as he has killed an unarmed child previously therefore his mere presence allows SYG to be invoked. If enough people say this enough times it will be internalized by some.

That tumblr website is horrible. Using the death of a teenager to humblebrag should be a capital offense. The fact these posts seem cathartic and meaningful to the posters really makes me want to puke.

It's a way to make a sad news story about yourself.
post #4547 of 6250
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Did that guy say Zimmerman filed suit against Trayvon's parents?

That's what he wrote. i assume that was fact checked by DU.

Also, the great intersection of white privilege and fat discrimination -
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I’m a fat, middle-aged, white woman. I sit comfortably on my sofa, in air-conditioning, writing this.

As a fat woman, I’ve faced hatred in the street. I’ve been yelled at, I’ve had raw eggs thrown at me, I’ve had a driver of a pick-up truck swerve to come close to hitting me on my bicycle yelling “get your fat ass out of the street!" When I try to buy clothes I hear voices of people who have attacked me, as I stand in the dressing room naked. When I eat an ice-cream cone in the park on a hot summer day, I get ugly glares. Every single representation of a person who looks like me in every media is there to be the big butt of a joke. The strong, competent, able, intelligent, and valued fat woman who has goals and ambitions in life not relating to her weight, simply does not exist.

I am as invisible as I am huge.

And as a woman I face new laws passed every day about how I use my body. The ability to buy and carry a gun is more valued than the ability for me to seek and obtain sound medical treatment. If I need reproductive healthcare, I am disparaged as a slut.

The sovereignty of my body is a matter of daily public debate. And I am losing this fight.

And when I get despondent about how I am treated I hold that feeling in my fat arms. I rock that feeling of hatred for what I look like, and hold it at my breast; I rock it like a baby, sooting the hurt. And I say to it, “I must never do this to another human. I must never allow my assumptions about a person based on how they look, make me treat them with less than full respect and dignity."

I am a product of my culture, and sometimes into my mind leap snap judgments of which I am not proud. This is the shameful truth. And I try to look carefully at these judgments, bear witness to my own prejudicial upbringing and culture, and try to learn to be better, every single day. I have unspeakable privilege tangled in with hurt and discrimination. I honor that, and hope it will teach me to be a better human.
post #4548 of 6250
Between her personality and her fatness it really doesn't seem like she has much to worry about on the contraceptive side of things.
post #4549 of 6250
I Am A Douchebag
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I am not Trayvon Martin. I am a 35 year old white woman with a professional career. health care benefits and enough disposable income to get bi-weekly manicures, root touch ups and eyelash extensions. One day I went the grocery store and when I got home, I realized that one of the items I’d brought up to the register (a jug of apple cider) wasn’t in my shopping bag. I stormed back to the store to retrieve the missing item, and the clerk was no longer at the register; she must have gone on a break. Annoyed, I grabbed a jug of apple cider off the shelf and walked out the store with it. If anyone tried to stop me, I was prepared to angrily tell them that the clerk had never given me the item, and then yell at them for the hassle. When I got home, I checked my receipt and saw that I’d never been charged for the apple cider. The clerk had never rung it up, which meant I’d just walked into a store and stolen something. And at that moment, I knew that the only reason I had the audacity to openly steal without any fear of punishment because I am not brown or poor. If I looked different, the consequences would be different. It’s time for that to change.

You know we've all done stupid things but posting your hissy fit on the Interwebs in support of a dead teenager?
post #4550 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I Am A Douchebag
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You know we've all done stupid things but posting your hissy fit on the Interwebs in support of a dead teenager?

The only reason she wasn't shot dead in the street is because she's a white woman.
post #4551 of 6250
We've seen the various commentators try to portray "stand your ground" as racist, though everyone (I think everyone) really knows that black people actually make much more use of self-defense than others. See, for example, this document from the Brady campaign: http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable.pdf
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In 2010, 52.6 percent (121) of the shooters who committed justifiable homicides were white, 44.3 percent (102) were black, 2.2 percent (five) were Asian, none were American Indian, and 0.9 percent (two) were of unknown race. For the five-year period 2006 through 2010, 53.1 percent (547) of the shooters who committed justifiable homicides were white, 40.8 percent (421) were black, 3.3 percent (34) were Asian, 0.4 percent (four) were American Indian, and 2.4 percent (25) were of unknown race. [For additional information see Table Seven: Race of shooter in Justifiable Homicides by Firearm, 2006–2010.]

And then there's this:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/blacks-benefit-from-florida-stand-your-ground-law-at-disproportionate-rate/
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Black Floridians have made about a third of the state’s total “Stand Your Ground” claims in homicide cases, a rate nearly double the black percentage of Florida’s population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate that exceeds that for Florida whites.
post #4552 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

We've seen the various commentators try to portray "stand your ground" as racist, though everyone (I think everyone) really knows that black people actually make much more use of self-defense than others. See, for example, this document from the Brady campaign: http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable.pdf
And then there's this:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/blacks-benefit-from-florida-stand-your-ground-law-at-disproportionate-rate/

Yeah on DU and places like that it's basically common wisdom that Stand Your Ground is only for whites. People are citing the Dooley case and taking Dooley's testimony at face value even though it conflicts with all of the eyewitnesses.

I want someone to explain that making it easier to get murder convictions this way is going to hurt blacks a lot more than it's going to help them. And I have to wonder what some people's reactions would be if a woman who killed a rapist or abusive boyfriend has to explain in court why she didn't retreat.
post #4553 of 6250
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Yeah on DU and places like that it's basically common wisdom that Stand Your Ground is only for whites. People are citing the Dooley case and taking Dooley's testimony at face value even though it conflicts with all of the eyewitnesses.

All the eye witnesses are racist. Duh.

I do wish someone could explain how a guy could have his "hands" around another person's neck while simultaneously reaching for a gun. If this is really true then I can see why Dooley was afraid for his life from this three armed freak.
post #4554 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

We've seen the various commentators try to portray "stand your ground" as racist, though everyone (I think everyone) really knows that black people actually make much more use of self-defense than others. See, for example, this document from the Brady campaign: http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable.pdf
And then there's this:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/blacks-benefit-from-florida-stand-your-ground-law-at-disproportionate-rate/

There are those that don't want to hear facts and your damn lawyerly reasoning.

You are not Trayvon!

HB is Trayvon, and I've got a sawbuck at risk to prove it.
post #4555 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

We've seen the various commentators try to portray "stand your ground" as racist, though everyone (I think everyone) really knows that black people actually make much more use of self-defense than others. See, for example, this document from the Brady campaign: http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable.pdf
And then there's this:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/blacks-benefit-from-florida-stand-your-ground-law-at-disproportionate-rate/

I've had clients invoke the PA equivalent of SYG 3 times. All 3 were minorities and all 3 were successful.
post #4556 of 6250
God, that tumblr is absolutely awful. You notice how most of them, in the process of flogging themselves for not knowing the true hardships of being black, manage to detail their various misfortunes anyway?
post #4557 of 6250
"(CNN) -- The woman known as Juror B37 in the George Zimmerman trial released a statement exclusively to CNN Wednesday pushing for new laws.
"My prayers are with all those who have the influence and power to modify the laws that left me with no verdict option other than 'not guilty' in order to remain within the instructions. No other family should be forced to endure what the Martin family has endured," she wrote."


http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/17/justice/zimmerman-verdict-aftermath/

Interesting
post #4558 of 6250
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Originally Posted by suited View Post

These last 12 months or so have to be the single largest vindication of the far right wing of the republican party in recent history.

You mean that dem have adopted far-right repub foreign policy or that you just made a raondom stupid comment?
post #4559 of 6250
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Originally Posted by hopkins_student View Post

Alright, tell us, which wearenottrayvonmartin post is yours?

What's your alias on stormfront?

Can people stop posting those wearenotwhatever on this thread, it serves no purpose but to have a few misguided posters get high on their own superiority and clutters the thread.
post #4560 of 6250
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

Its a witch hunt of an innocent man by the federal government.
This is sadly true. I don't understand it. Z was tried, found innocent, now leave him alone.
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