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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

The answer depends on whether you think black people are too prejudiced to have decided the case fairly. No comment from me...

I don't think a black juror would have felt like they could face their friends and families after acquitting. Black people seem to have been very much unanimous on his guilt. My guess is that's why young liberals were so committed to the idea.
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West is giving a press conference now. Tune in!

Aw, that was too short.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's often been out of line, but I enjoy the hell out of watching him.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post


That's a non-sequitur.
No, it isn't. The question was whether there would have been an acquittal if there were two black people on the jury. The real answer, to state what should be obvious, is that it depends on which particular black people.
And if the question is whether "black people are too prejudiced", the answer is the same.
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Last one, I promise. I just had a laugh here.
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I despair for justice in the US.

If the legislature doesn't correct the law, THEY ARE COMPLICIT IN THE NEXT MURDER. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. OF. THEM.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

West is giving a press conference now. Tune in!

Aw, that was too short.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's often been out of line, but I enjoy the hell out of watching him.

He didn't say the case was politically and racially driven but he did say that bringing it was disgraceful.

I agree and so does former police chief Lee.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Last one, I promise. I just had a laugh here.
Who stated what you quoted?
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

No, it isn't. The question was whether there would have been an acquittal if there were two black people on the jury. The real answer, to state what should be obvious, is that it depends on which particular black people.
And if the question is whether "black people are too prejudiced", the answer is the same.
Yes, black people are all individuals. So what? You have to draw individuals from the overall population. You can make predictions based on that.
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Warning: This is not a satirical or rhetorical post. I am genuinely curious, and I don't mean to pose a 'loaded' hypothetical.

Given the facts of the case that we've been exposed to from the media, was Zimmerman guilty of any crime that a prosecutor could have hypothetically levied against him? I understand, for example, that 'assault' is off the table given the available evidence because, although it's likely that Mr. Zimmerman drew his weapon prior to a physical altercation, there is no evidence one way or the other regarding this; I want to know about hypothetical cases given the undisputed facts of this case. I only ask this question simply because, from the perspective of a commoner, it seems as though Mr. Zimmerman's decision-making and behavior lead to a situation in which he was forced to end another's life in an act of self defense. Is that, in itself, criminal negligence or something along those lines? Or is Mr. Zimmerman simply a reckless individual who should be shunned but not, legally speaking, branded a criminal? Sorry if that is confusing. Thanks!
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Fair enough, I agree with that as far as it goes. You can make a prediction. But not a definitive one.
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

I have to respectfully disagree. This was a politically motivated prosecution. It was a disgusting display of appeasement and media grandstanding. Zimmerman never should have been charged. If you want to blame someone for sullying the memory of Trayvon you should look at Sharpton, Jackson, MSNBC, and even Obama for his ludicrous "if I had a son he'd look like Trayvon" comment. This was a stupid incident from some shit town in shitty Florida that got blown way out of proportion by ploticians, race baiters, and whores in the media. That they didn't get the result they craved so much is cause to celebrate as far as I'm concerned. Condolences to the Martin family but they let themselves get used by these people and the got a nice million dollar payout from the HOA in exchange for selling their son's memory.

Good riddance to the whole mess.

Amen.

It's not like we're cheering Trayvon dying. That happened a long time ago. And it's not like Zimmerman got away with the crime of being a nosy, hamfisted bumbler. His life has been fucked six ways from Sunday. I just wanted to see the disappointment on all the faces of the sanctimonious hysterics screaming for the guy's head. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by SeanathonHuff View Post

Warning: This is not a satirical or rhetorical post. I am genuinely curious, and I don't mean to pose a 'loaded' hypothetical.

Given the facts of the case that we've been exposed to from the media, was Zimmerman guilty of any crime that a prosecutor could have hypothetically levied against him? I understand, for example, that 'assault' is off the table given the available evidence because, although it's likely that Mr. Zimmerman drew his weapon prior to a physical altercation, there is no evidence one way or the other regarding this; I want to know about hypothetical cases given the undisputed facts of the case. I only ask this question simply because, from the perspective of a commoner, it seems as though Mr. Zimmerman's decision-making and behavior lead to a situation in which he was forced to end another's life in an act of self defense. Is that, in itself, criminal negligence or something along those lines? Or is Mr. Zimmerman simply a reckless individual who should be shunned but not, legally speaking, a criminal? Sorry if that is confusing. Thanks!
If he initiated the altercation he could be guilty of some sort of assault charge. Maybe his own felony murder? (Only the first statement is serious.)
post #4017 of 6250
Well, something good came of this after all. It seems there's an outside chance we won't have to see the frothing-at-the-mouth-over-the-extraordinary-injustice-of-it-all crowd for a day or two.

https://www.facebook.com/events/167817073400618/?fref=tck
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I'm glad they didn't drag out the trial over several months.
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Originally Posted by SeanathonHuff View Post

was Zimmerman guilty of any crime that a prosecutor could have hypothetically levied against him?

I believe his car may have been parked on the wrong side of the road.
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

I'm glad they didn't drag out the trial over several months.

As I said Judge Nelson was much better than Judge Ito.
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