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post #3421 of 6250
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/cops-go-door-to-door-in-trayvon-town/
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Cops are going door-to-door in an American city again, only this time at least they are knocking on doors instead of knocking them down.

The most recent example of a police-state presence is developing even now in Sanford, Fla., where neighborhood-watch participant George Zimmerman is on trial for murder for the death of teenager Trayvon Martin.

While the media has portrayed Zimmerman as white, he actually has a Hispanic heritage, and Martin was black.

Police say they fear the backlash from the community which could develop at the point the jury verdict is delivered. Los Angeles had days of rioting when the Rodney King verdict came down.

So Sanford Police Chief Cecile Smith confirmed officers are going door-to-door talking to people.

“Our worst fear is that we’d have people from outside the community coming in and stirring up … violence,” he said.


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post #3422 of 6250
The judge's ruling was correct as to the substance of the objection. Timeliness is the thing I'm concerned about. Objections like that are supposed to be contemporaneous or they're waived.
post #3423 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

The judge's ruling was correct as to the substance of the objection. Timeliness is the thing I'm concerned about. Objections like that are supposed to be contemporaneous or they're waived.

I'm not questioning if the ruling was correct in regards to substance I was just asking if the knife cuts both ways.
post #3424 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Can a defense lawyer get it stricken if a cop says he thinks the defendant is lying?

Absolutely. Ideally the lawyer would object immediately when the question comes up instead of waiting for the cop to answer.
post #3425 of 6250
The answer's yes, generally. There are certain cases where courts let witnesses get really close -- like child molestation cases where the quasi-professional interviewers talk about what a reliable child victim looks like. But that's a tangent.
post #3426 of 6250
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

I think the Judge's ruling is correct, but this shows a complete lack of preparation of a witness on the Prosecution's part. And then to wait two days before objecting to it... Fucking incompetent.

Or, as I have stated previously, they're actively trying to throw the case.

Agreed.
post #3427 of 6250
OK, so the lawyers here are saying the prosecution is throwing the case. I'm hearing things about how it's all a dog and pony show in an attempt to appease civil uprisings and to be politically correct or something like that. My question is how is this going to be beneficial to anyone and what's going to happen when the media hacks the case apart when it's all said and done? It looks to me like what's going on is going to very much be counterproductive in keeping the streets quiet.
post #3428 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post

OK, so the lawyers here are saying the prosecution is throwing the case. I'm hearing things about how it's all a dog and pony show in an attempt to appease civil uprisings and to be politically correct or something like that. My question is how is this going to be beneficial to anyone and what's going to happen when the media hacks the case apart when it's all said and done? It looks to me like what's going on is going to very much be counterproductive in keeping the streets quiet.

It is good money for a few defense attorneys.
post #3429 of 6250
So there is some protests and anger, who cares? I really doubt we are going to see some large scale rioting or anything like that.
post #3430 of 6250
Holy shit, it was even worse than I thought.
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The court reporter reads back part of Serino's testimony from yesterday:
"So if we were to take pathological liar off the table as a possibility ... you think he was telling the truth?" asked O'Mara.
"Yes," said Serino.
The judge tells jurors this was an improper comment made by a witness and to disregard the question and the answer.

They didn't just say to the jury "The comments from the officer regarding truthfulness are to be disregarded" or something, THEY FUCKING RE-READ HIS TESTIMONY to the jury before telling them to disregard it.

There's simply no question they're throwing the case now.
post #3431 of 6250
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"Right now, it could be raining outside?" asked de la Rionda.
"Yes sir," said Serino.
"And that would be pure speculation on your part?" asked de la Rionda.
"Yes sir," said Serino.

The prosecutor is beating up on his own witness.
post #3432 of 6250
Heh.

I thought your comments about the prosecutors throwing the case were hyperbole, but I'm starting to wonder now...
post #3433 of 6250
Are the odds getting better for a directed verdict or is this still not something likely to happen?
post #3434 of 6250
Still not going to happen.
post #3435 of 6250
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Also testifying Tuesday was Mark Osterman, a good friend of Zimmerman who wrote a book about the shooting. Osterman estified that Zimmerman largely told him the same version of the story he told police.

Osterman said Zimmerman told him his version of the tragedy minutes after being released by police on the early morning following the shooting.

Osterman also said that, well before the shooting, he helped Zimmerman get a gun when his friend reached out to him for advice.

"I recommend anyone who is not a convicted felon carry a firearm," said Osterman, who works for the Federal Marshal service. "The police aren't always there."

I see no benefit to the prosecution of calling this witness. It's just another chance to get in Zimmerman's side of the story without opening him up to cross examination.
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Still to be sorted out is a motion filed Monday by Assistant State Attorney Richard Mantei asking the judge to hold a hearing on an Instagram picture posted by defense attorney Don West's daughter.

The picture shows West and his daughter eating ice cream cones the day West cross-examined Rachel Jeantel. Jeantel was the young woman on the phone with Trayvon moments before he was killed.

West's daughter captioned the picture "We beat stupidity celebration" and wrote "#dadkilledit." The prosecutor wants an inquiry to "ensure witnesses and court proceedings are treated with respect and not as occasions for inappropriate jokes."

Lol. This is the best they got.

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