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post #3241 of 6250
Holy crap, Zimmerman did hire Marsha Clark. An all-female jury in a self-defense shooitng of a high schooler?
post #3242 of 6250
Obviously I have no experience in this but I would tend to think an all female jury is probably second only to an all black female jury in terms of bad news for Zimmerman?
post #3243 of 6250
Is the Hispanic juror a white Hispanic, black Hispanic, or Hispanic Hispanic?
post #3244 of 6250
II agree that an all female jury does not seem the best outcome of jury selection for Z.

Maybe O,Meara will do a real Marcia Clark.

Nobly lose the case while taking the high road, and then cash in with books and Media like Marcia did.

Whatever happened to Marcia after the OJ stuff. I know she did quite well for awhile, cashed in and now may well be very comfortably retired. There can be good money in screwing up a huge case.

It"s not about T and Z at this point. Poor kid is dead ( said sincerely ) and Z will have messed up life whatever happens.
Edited by rnoldh - 6/20/13 at 1:23pm
post #3245 of 6250
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Is the Hispanic juror a white Hispanic, black Hispanic, or Hispanic Hispanic?

White Hispanic if Zimmerman walks.
post #3246 of 6250
An all-female jury seems bad for Z, but I'd be interested to know how many of them are mothers and how many are gun owners.
post #3247 of 6250
What I want to know is how many peremptory challenges were actually used. Did the prosecutors tender this jury to Zimmerman as a dare and he took it? Or did the judge let Z strike all the black jurors after all?

Edit: based on what I've read these guys were all near the top of the list. So I take it both sides decided not to gamble on whether the judge would let Z strike the black jurors.
post #3248 of 6250
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The race and ethnicity of the minority chosen for the jury was not immediately available. Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic.

Two of the jurors recently moved to the area – one from Iowa and one from Chicago – and two are involved with rescuing animals as their hobbies.

One juror had a prior arrest, but she said it was disposed of and she thought she was treated fairly. Two jurors have guns in their homes. All of their names have been kept confidential and the panel will be sequestered for the trial.
post #3249 of 6250
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B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has several children and lived in Chicago at the time of shooting. She’s married. She said she doesn't watch the news, preferring reality television: “Right when we got here, I got cable... I love my reality shows.” During jury selection, she said she was arrested once in Chicago.

B-76: A white, middle-aged woman who said Zimmerman had an “altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off.” Has been married 30 years, and is unemployed. She formerly worked with her husband in his construction company. Her 28-year-old son is an attorney in Seminole County. She also has a daughter, 26, has been a victim of non-violent crime and rescues “a lot of pets.” The state tried to strike her, but was denied.

B-37: A middle-aged white woman who has worked for a chiropractor for 16 years and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as “rioting.” Her husband is an attorney. She has two daughters: A 24-year-old dog groomer and a 27-year-old who attends the University of Central Florida. She used to have concealed weapons permit, but let it lapse. Her husband also has one.

B-51: A retired white woman from Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat. She knew a good deal about the case, but said “I'm not rigid in my thinking.” She has been in Seminole County for nine years, is unmarried and has no kids. She previously lived in Atlanta, and used to work in real estate. She also ran a call center in Brevard County which she said had 1,200 employees.

E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her two adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night. She has lived in Seminole County for eight years, and is married to an engineer. She was arrested in Brevard County, but said she “was treated completely fairly.” Her husband has guns. The state tried to strike her from the jury, but was denied.

E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed. She described herself as a safety officer, is married to a chemical engineer and loves football. She has a 28-year-old son who’s out of work. She said she’s very well versed in cell phone technology, and has been a victim of crime.

These are the alternates:

E-54: A middle-aged white man with a teenage stepson who wears hoodies. He recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman's head and face that show injuries. He loves golf and genealogy, and said he’s been married for five years to a technical engineer. He grew up in Seminole County and has a teenage stepson.

B-72: A young, possibly Hispanic man who does maintenance at a school and competes in arm wrestling tournaments. He said he avoids the news because he does not want to be “brainwashed.” He grew up in Chicago, is single and an alumni of Phi Beta Kappa. He is very physically active, having participated in high school football, track and weightlifting. Of arm-wrestling he said, “I could talk about it all day.”

E-13: A young white woman who goes to college and works two jobs, one of them as a surgical assistant. She heard the shooting was a “racial thing.” She said she could be a fair juror “just because I don't really know that much.” She is single, has lived in Seminole County for 17 years and attends church. She also owns and rides horses.

E-28: A middle-aged white woman who has worked as a nurse for 26 years. She knew little about the case and has no opinion about Zimmerman's guilt. She has lived in Seminole County since 1985, and has been married for 28 years; her husband is a teacher. She has two adult children: 27 and 23.
post #3250 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

What I want to know is how many peremptory challenges were actually used. Did the prosecutors tender this jury to Zimmerman as a dare and he took it? Or did the judge let Z strike all the black jurors after all?

Edit: based on what I've read these guys were all near the top of the list. So I take it both sides decided not to gamble on whether the judge would let Z strike the black jurors.

Yeah that was my thought. Zimmerman's attorney probably thought that a jury with one black juror was a good get and worth the risk of an all female jury.

Honestly, if the other 5 women are middle aged/middle class white women, I could see this being pretty favorable. Who is more scared of black teenagers?
post #3251 of 6250
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Yeah that was my thought. Zimmerman's attorney probably thought that a jury with one black juror was a good get and worth the risk of an all female jury.

Honestly, if the other 5 women are middle aged/middle class white women, I could see this being pretty favorable. Who is more scared of black teenagers?

other gang banging thugs
post #3252 of 6250
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post


Honestly, if the other 5 women are middle aged/middle class white women, I could see this being pretty favorable. Who is more scared of black teenagers?

post #3253 of 6250
Never trust a man in shorts.
post #3254 of 6250
It's not so much what their actual response to black teenagers would be, it's what their idea of them is and how they think other people should treat them. "Gosh, if it was me, I would have let him bang my head on the concrete. He probably wouldn't have killed me. And I'm sure he came from a broken home. It's not his fault."

Surely you've met a liberal before...
post #3255 of 6250
You're assuming white Southern women are liberals. They're not.
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