Originally Posted by Crane's
Globe this is where I end up conflicted. Everyone keeps talking about stand your ground. Stand your ground means exactly that. It does not mean chase someone down and when it all goes wrong you get to play the self defense card and shoot someone. Now if Zimmerman actually did stop his pursuit and Martin decided to flank him and initiate an assault then I have no problem saying he certainly can stand his ground and his self defense shooting was justifiable.
IMO it'll be the interpretation of FLA's SYGL that's going to decide this case.
before I go on and read the rest of the thread - let me say that I am pretty sure that you and I are in very close agreement on this particular instance.
1. Z is a good guy in general, trying to help out his neighborhood
2. following suspicious people and calling the cops is a good thing
3. Z should have stayed in his car, by getting out, he put himself in a postion where he might end up killing somebody who didn't have to die
4. trayvon my very well have had criminal intentions that evening, and he certainly wasn't a "good kid"
5. there is a very good chance that trayvvon atacked Z without a good reason
6. once attacked, if attacked, z had the right to shoot his attacker, no matter what stupid thing they each did to get into that situaiton
7. you might be able to argue that Z "attacke" trayvon - it is possible that a 17 year old running percieved suffitient and credible thread from a large running and screaming man chasing him to warrant turning around and hitting him
the bottom liine is, trayvon didn't have to die, and that was in the control of z, he should have behaved more responsibly,