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post #2431 of 6250
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Originally Posted by scarphe View Post


but if his child was in inside why did he go out? why not call the the cops and wait.
he should have stayed in prison for just being a moron in that instance.

his child was outside returning from the same party

post #2432 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

As the court noted in the opinion, the guy didn't just go outside to confront the kids. He walked 80 feet from his front door to the road where they were.
And for good measure, he brought the son they were wanting to fight down with him.
He did these things because he was afraid and wanted to protect his son, of course.

the guy he shot was on his property

the son was already outside returning from the party

the good news, the bad guy is dead in this case, justice served, the good man is free

post #2433 of 6250
No, the kid went inside and got his father, then they went down to the street to confront the other kids.

At this point, though, I should give up the ghost. I'm so biased in cases involving black people I even think OJ Simpson did it.
post #2434 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

No, the kid went inside and got his father, then they went down to the street to confront the other kids.
At this point, though, I should give up the ghost. I'm so biased in cases involving black people I even think OJ Simpson did it.

The night Cicciaro was killed, he was at a party with the girl when they spotted Aaron White. According to court testimony, Cicciaro became angry and White was asked to leave. Aaron White testified that after he left the party, Cicciaro and a male friend called him on his cell phone, saying to him, "Get back to this party you n****r."

Aaron White says he then went home and received more calls from Cicciaro and his friends, telling him they were coming to his house to kill him. He then woke his father, who grabbed his handgun and waited for the boys to arrive.

Police say that around 11 p.m., Cicciaro and four friends arrived at White's house. John and Aaron White walked out of their house, both holding guns, and had a heated exchange with Cicciaro and his friends. John White asked the boys to leave.

 

he got what he was looking for...trouble

post #2435 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Arthur PE View Post

his child was outside returning from the same party

well the child get into the house with father escorting him. end or story...
did the man have to go out to confront the group to escort his son somehow i doubt it.
if he was escorting his child back and he was rushed it could be ok.
if zimmerman should be held accountable this idiot should have received the the full force of the jsutice system as well.
becaue they both looked for a confrontation

so which is it the kid was coming back or was he already at home?
post #2436 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Arthur PE View Post

The night Cicciaro was killed, he was at a party with the girl when they spotted Aaron White. According to court testimony, Cicciaro became angry and White was asked to leave. Aaron White testified that after he left the party, Cicciaro and a male friend called him on his cell phone, saying to him, "Get back to this party you n****r."
Aaron White says he then went home and received more calls from Cicciaro and his friends, telling him they were coming to his house to kill him. He then woke his father, who grabbed his handgun and waited for the boys to arrive.
Police say that around 11 p.m., Cicciaro and four friends arrived at White's house. John and Aaron White walked out of their house, both holding guns, and had a heated exchange with Cicciaro and his friends. John White asked the boys to leave.

he got what he was looking for...trouble

so he was not waitng for his chidl when the boys came, he went outside bringing his son outside armed waitign for them...
he wanted a fight.... if not why not jsut call the pigs tell them about eh threats and the sit and stay indoors.
the fact that you defend this guy.....
post #2437 of 6250

bottom line: bad racist dead. stupid too, 'shoot me'

the decent guy is alive, well and free

justice was served

post #2438 of 6250
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Originally Posted by scarphe View Post


so he was not waitng for his chidl when the boys came, he went outside bringing his son outside armed waitign for them...
he wanted a fight.... if not why not jsut call the pigs tell them about eh threats and the sit and stay indoors.
the fact that you defend this guy.....

 

if you go to someones house with a racist gang, drunk, violent and looking for a fight, don't expect a fair one, be prepared...he got more than he bargined for...he was stupid and paid the price, darwin

 

all he had to do was not go...he chose wrong

post #2439 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Arthur PE View Post

if you go to someones house with a racist gang, drunk, violent and looking for a fight, don't expect a fair one, be prepared...he got more than he bargined for...he was stupid and paid the price, darwin

all he had to do was not go...he chose wrong
you still do nto get it ....
the white guy (meaning the negro in this sit) looked for the fight. why else would one go out and wait for them armed? again call the pigs and stay inside would have been the actions of a man that did not want a fight.
post #2440 of 6250
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Originally Posted by scarphe View Post


you still do nto get it ....
the white guy (meaning the negro in this sit) looked for the fight. why else would one go out and wait for them armed? again call the pigs and stay inside would have been the actions of a man that did not want a fight.

 

no he didn't

they came to HIS house, drunk, in numbers and with violent intent

he went armed because he was smart and out numbered and wanted to survive

he did, the racist didn't

he was sick of these guys, wouldn't be the first time a white gang ball batted a black kid to death

he made a bad choice, the kid shot made a worse one

post #2441 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Arthur PE View Post

no he didn't
they came to HIS house, drunk, in numbers and with violent intent
he went armed because he was smart and out numbered and wanted to survive
he did, the racist didn't
he was sick of these guys, wouldn't be the first time a white gang ball batted a black kid to death
he made a bad choice, the kid shot made a worse one

simple question
why leave the building ?
please answer this question only.
post #2442 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan View Post

Evidence of self-defense is really starting to pile up:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-witnesses-back-george-zimmermans-version/story?id=16371852#.T7Zyg1KO6Jg

Haha, look at how much older T is in the picture before the video plays.
post #2443 of 6250
Interestingly, the recently released discovery stuff indicates that the authorities had the audio analyzed by the FBI.

They concluded that the (alleged) "fucking coons" couldn't be verified either way. They also concluded that a voice comparison of who was doing in the screaming on the 911 tapes was impossible--so much for the experts hired by the media.
post #2444 of 6250
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Interestingly, the recently released discovery stuff indicates that the authorities had the audio analyzed by the FBI.
They concluded that the (alleged) "fucking coons" couldn't be verified either way. They also concluded that a voice comparison of who was doing in the screaming on the 911 tapes was impossible--so much for the experts hired by the media.

Z's father, after the call was "cleaned up" admitted (in tears) that it was his son yelling for help approximately 14 times.

Also, the girl talking to TM heard him say "get off, get off" implying that Z had grabbed TM and confronted him.
post #2445 of 6250
OK so the audio tape is pretty much worthless for either side.

I just read the affidavit. I really don't see much there that would discount a valid claim of self defense. What I do see is a lot of evidence that some of the laws involved are disasters that have now happened. I can see how they are trying to put bits and pieces together to burn Zimmerman but as Munch pointed out to me things don't work that way.

IMO, the affidavat is nothing but a poor CYA attempt at validating bad law and damage control.
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