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I missed the whole cane thing, can somebody show me a link?

never mind, figured it out
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

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George Zimmerman, who at twenty-eight years
Has a dad who's a judge who keeps speaking for him
And over the years, he's tried to protect him
With his high court relations in the politics of Florida,
Like when his son fought drunk with policemen
Or when he was noticed for concerns about safety
Ignored that and told stories, and his tongue it was snarling,
About what Trayvon did, and why he deserved it
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears,
Take your hands away from your face. Now ain't the time for your tears.

Father was a magistrate, not a judge, not the same thing. Just sayin'.
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Whats a full grown man even doing with a toy cane? Also, exactly what is a toy cane? It seems like it would be one slight, almost imperceptible step above a toy stick. I mean why bother making one? You might as well just make a real cane and then play with it.

It was evidently part of a costume. Zantzinger was wearing a top hat along with it, perhaps for some sort of Fred Astaire-like effect or routine.
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Originally Posted by shibbel View Post

Father was a magistrate, not a judge, not the same thing. Just sayin'.

They call them judges these days. Have for years.
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Originally Posted by shibbel View Post

Father was a magistrate, not a judge, not the same thing. Just sayin'.

They call them judges these days. Have for years.

Not sure who "they" are, but while a magistrate is a judicial officer, they do not possess trial jurisdiction. I spend a fair amount of time in VA beach, and I've only heard magistrates called magistrates.
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It was widely reported that he was a federal magistrate judge--turns out he wasn't, just some kind of low level state court judge judicial officer, probably on a level with a justice of the peace.

There's a surprise.
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It was evidently part of a costume. Zantzinger was wearing a top hat along with it, perhaps for some sort of Fred Astaire-like effect or routine.

Truth is always so much stranger than fiction. It would have been a far greater achievement if Dylan had tried to weave a meaningful song out of the actual components of that event.
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A question for Americans -- does everybody agree that they do not belong in schools?

No. And not in a way where like, 2% thinks guns can be brought to schools... there are sizable parts of the population that believe guns should be brought to schools.
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Don't you like to go on about conservatives blaming the victim? For shame.

BTW, I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said I <3 Owen. I was going to take a pic and send it through our intermediary but declined.

Anyway, read that Z collected $200k (IIRC) from his legal defense website which could get him in trouble for claiming indigence. That is all.

Also, can we seriously lay off the photos of bloody scalps? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

No. And not in a way where like, 2% thinks guns can be brought to schools... there are sizable parts of the population that believe guns should be brought to schools.
BTW, I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said I <3 Owen. I was going to take a pic and send it through our intermediary but declined.
Anyway, read that Z collected $200k (IIRC) from his legal defense website which could get him in trouble for claiming indigence. That is all.
Also, can we seriously lay off the photos of bloody scalps? Thanks.

I see. This strikes me as a form of madness.
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Haven't we had enough school shootings for people to realize it should be illegal for kids to bring guns to school?
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I see. This strikes me as a form of madness.

The thinking is (as the it is for just about any other gun law-related whatever) is that if you have people trained with firearms on campus then *if* a shooting breaks out, that person would be more likely to stop the shooter... it is unconvincing, even for someone who supports gun rights like myself.
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Each year there is a movement in the state legislature here to allow guns in schools and on college campuses. So far the proposed legislation hasn't gotten far, but it does demonstrate that some folks believe strongly that guns should not be prohibited in schools/colleges.
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Each year there is a movement in the state legislature here to allow guns in schools and on college campuses. So far the proposed legislation hasn't gotten far, but it does demonstrate that some folks believe strongly that guns should not be prohibited in schools/colleges.

My understanding is Wisconsin no longer bans them at universities for permit holders. When the carry law was passed, there was a mad rush to put up signs at all building entrances on all the campus buildings, because if even one entrance on a building that was not properly signed, people could carry in the building.
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

The thinking is (as the it is for just about any other gun law-related whatever) is that if you have people trained with firearms on campus then *if* a shooting breaks out, that person would be more likely to stop the shooter... it is unconvincing, even for someone who supports gun rights like myself.

Just for the record, when I said schools I meant elementary and high-school. Not, mind you, that I favour guns on campuses either, but at least they are places for adults rather than children.
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Each year there is a movement in the state legislature here to allow guns in schools and on college campuses. So far the proposed legislation hasn't gotten far, but it does demonstrate that some folks believe strongly that guns should not be prohibited anywhere.

FTFY.
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