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Sanford police chief to to resign: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/23/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I don't see how he could stay, whether the investigation was botched or not his authority has been completely eroded.
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I hear Joan Vinge's "Snow Queen" is a pretty good book if your'e a Dune fan.
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I hear Joan Vinge's "Snow Queen" is a pretty good book if your'e a Dune fan.

Good recommendation - Snow Queen is not in the same league as Dune, but still an excellent book.

I'd also add the Iain Banks Culture Novels, Octavia Butler's Xenogenesis series and some of Le Guin's science fiction (The Word for World is Forest; The Dispossessed) for related themes to those explored in Dune.

I thought the Dune series had a similar pattern to the Star Trek movies: they alternated back and forth between horrible and decent, but unlike Star Trek the first in the series was the best.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Sanford police chief to to resign: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/23/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I don't see how he could stay, whether the investigation was botched or not his authority has been completely eroded.

Agreed. I figured it was just a matter of time for it to be official vs. temporary when he first stepped aside.
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To be clear, The Black Falcon is not science fiction. The connection to Dune was that it is set in a harsh, desert-like wilderness where tribal law is supreme. Here is a reasonably accurate review from Amazon:
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Two unique features made me want to read this book by Jamil Ahmad. The first one was the fact that the author had written the stories in this book in the early 1970s and had just filed them away for almost forty years before publishing it as his first novel at the ripe old age of eighty. The second was that this is a book that tells you stories about the nomadic and settled tribes of Waziristan, Baluchistan and the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa - something that very few, if any, have probably done before in English. Being from India, I was particularly keen to learn about these tribes because all that we hear about them nowadays are horror stories in the international media. The author, though an ethnic Punjabi, writes about them without judgement and with love and affection. He is well qualified to write on the subject as he served in these border areas as a Pakistani Civil Service officer for many years.

The book, though billed as a novel, seems to me a collection of independent short stories about the various tribes. The only thread that links them in a fragile way is the character of young Tor Baz, belonging possibly to the Siahpad tribe. The stories are mostly about enforcing the harsh tribal laws, about following traditions which are alien to modern societies, about dealing with the complexities of migration across national boundaries by nomadic tribes without documents etc. The last three chapters chronicle stories about the lives of two women who run away from their homes due to ill-treatment by their husbands but eventually end up being 'sold' in the market to prospective brothel owners or their agents in the cities. It was heart-rending to read these three chapters as it is painful for me to realize that in our sub-continent such things have happened as recently as forty years ago and still happens in all our big cities even now. One of the stories deals with the Mehsud tribe kidnapping a government official from the city for ransom in order for the tribesmen to make some money. It is written about in such a matter-of-fact manner by the author without any ethical judgement. I thought this was brilliant. In the same way, he writes about the trafficking of destitute women by men and selling one's own children temporarily to another during times times of acute poverty, again without any ethical judgement. I think this is what makes the stories special.

Most of the tribes Jamil Ahmad writes about seem to be illiterate and place high value on honor and on their given word. However, there is also much cruelty in their lives, much physical hardship and survival and death. There are some wonderful lines in the book as follows:
While writing about the Mehsuds and the Wazirs, he says: ..."Nature has bred in both an unusual abundance of anger, enormous resilience, and a total refusal to accept their fate...". I feel that the American and NATO forces are finding the truth of this statement today.

I found the stories quite educational and exotic. Anyone interested in the lives of people in these frontier areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan would not be disappointed in reading this book. The language used by the author is simple and straightforward and fits in well with the
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so which of you cool guys likes to patrol your neighborhoods at night with a concealed gun?
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so which of you cool guys likes to patrol your neighborhoods at night with a concealed gun?

I just snipe suspicious characters from my windows, no point in getting attacked by some crazy kid brandishing skittles when you can take him out from afar.
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I just snipe suspicious characters from my windows, no point in getting attacked by some crazy kid brandishing skittles when you can take him out from afar.

I don't know. I'd be willing to shoot someone for some tropical skittles. If he had starburst, I'd take out his whole family.

Having a sweet tooth can be dangerous.
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We sub-contract with the Black Panthers to keep our neighborhood safe.
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I don't know. I'd be willing to shoot someone for some tropical skittles. If he had starburst, I'd take out his whole family.
Having a sweet tooth can be dangerous.

I'm sorry, but tropical skittles are the worst kind of skittles.
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We sub-contract with the Black Panthers to keep our neighborhood safe.

According to a recent New Yorker article I read, the NRA wasn't actually an advocate of personal gun rights using an interpretation of the second amendment. It was the work of the Black Panthers pushing it in the 60s/70s.

I'm so happy I don't live in a neighborhood with black panthers. Or concealed weapons carriers.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

I'm sorry, but tropical skittles are the worst kind of skittles.

Son you must be retarded.
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Originally Posted by haganah View Post

According to a recent New Yorker article I read, the NRA wasn't actually an advocate of personal gun rights using an interpretation of the second amendment. It was the work of the Black Panthers pushing it in the 60s/70s.
I'm so happy I don't live in a neighborhood with black panthers. Or concealed weapons carriers.

You must know your neighbors very well.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

We sub-contract with the Black Panthers to keep our neighborhood safe.

According to a recent New Yorker article I read, the NRA wasn't actually an advocate of personal gun rights using an interpretation of the second amendment. It was the work of the Black Panthers pushing it in the 60s/70s.

I'm so happy I don't live in a neighborhood with black panthers. Or concealed weapons carriers.

We put a bounty on the heads of suspicious folks and the Panthers really react well to that as an incentive. Well, I figure they do, as we don't have suspicious types in my neighborhood.

Btw, how can you tell no one is carrying a concealed weapon in your neighborhood? Is your super power Xray vision? If so, I hope you only use it for good.
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Sanford police chief to to resign: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/23/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Sanford city council rejected his resignation.
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