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I imagine that, rights be damned, they are doing their level best to control the situation and make sure the state doesn't look like even more of a backward shithole.
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Statistically speaking someone formally accused of a crime is more likely than most to commit another crime than a member of the general public. What makes Zimmerman so dangerous?
I think the type of crime matters most here. I don't think it is likely he will commit another murder, but I don't see why this new "evidence" should get him bail. Also I didn't say I thought he would do anything, I was responding to you inferring that he isn't a danger to society at all. I think it is arguable, I think it clearly is.
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I have to agree with jpier. I mean, do you have any idea how many new hoodie wearers there are in the last three weeks? They are all in grave danger from Z.
You were better than this before. You falling off.
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I imagine that, rights be damned, they are doing their level best to control the situation and make sure the state doesn't look like even more of a backward shithole.

I don't think they ever recovered from hanging chads.
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I think the type of crime matters most here. I don't think it is likely he will commit another murder, but I don't see why this new "evidence" should get him bail. Also I didn't say I thought he would do anything, I was responding to you inferring that he isn't a danger to society at all. I think it is arguable, I think it clearly is.
You were better than this before. You falling off.

The strength of the case against him is one factor the court should weigh in deciding whether (or how much) the bail should be. And, let's face it, as a murder case, the charges against Zimmerman are weak.

Zimmerman has lived in the area for a long time, he has family and friends there, he didn't run after the crime, he immediately turned himself in, etc. The circumstances of the crime don't suggest that he's a danger to the community at large. He should get bail.
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I liked this threak better when it was about homeowners' associations. I volunteered to serve on the executive of mine because no one else wanted to...now I understand why. I thought I was being smart by buying a place in a neighborhood where the average resident's age is north of 55 years...what a bunch of narcs and whiners the elderly are. Thank god my term is up this summer.
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They shouldn't seems rather irrelevant to me.

What? He says he was attacked. Witness say he was bandaged in a manner consistent with his claims. How the hell is that not relevant?
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I have to agree with jpier. I mean, do you have any idea how many new hoodie wearers there are in the last three weeks? They are all in grave danger from Z.
You were better than this before. You falling off.

I was trying to capture the thought you expressed in that he is more likely to inappropriately approach people and what I thought the odds were he would shoot another kid in a hoodie. I didn't properly convey my thoughts on that?
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I was trying to capture the thought you expressed in that he is more likely to inappropriately approach people and what I thought the odds were he would shoot another kid in a hoodie. I didn't properly convey my thoughts on that?

No. What you are say promotes that I think he will or is likely to do such, which I certainly never said.
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What? He says he was attacked. Witness say he was bandaged in a manner consistent with his claims. How the hell is that not relevant?

To bail? I didn't say it was not relevant at trail. I think everyone already knows they had an altercation before the shooting.
To be honest I actually never read the reasons for them denying bail in the first place. Did they say?
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I was trying to capture the thought you expressed in that he is more likely to inappropriately approach people and what I thought the odds were he would shoot another kid in a hoodie. I didn't properly convey my thoughts on that?

No. What you are say promotes that I think he will or is likely to do such, which I certainly never said.

So then you withdraw your comment that Z is "more likely than most to inappropriately approach people?"
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So then you withdraw your comment that Z is "more likely than most to inappropriately approach people?"

lmao Not sure why your trolling me. I said in the sentence before that I don't think he is likely to kill anyone.
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So then you withdraw your comment that Z is "more likely than most to inappropriately approach people?"

lmao Not sure why your trolling me. I said in the sentence before that I don't think he is likely to kill anyone.

But that he is likely to inappropriately approach people.

You know I think Z is a dick for confronting M while armed but I also think Z is getting treated in a disparate fashion from what I think is the usual protocols here. It seems like the state is holding him to ad hoc created standards and not the ones they usually apply. I'm just a layman at a distance so my impression could well be wrong.
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As far as I know they haven't even had a hearing on bail yet.
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As far as I know they haven't even had a hearing on bail yet.

Would they usually have had one by now?
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

But that he is likely to inappropriately approach people.
You know I think Z is a dick for confronting M while armed but I also think Z is getting treated in a disparate fashion from what I think is the usual protocols here. It seems like the state is holding him to ad hoc created standards and not the ones they usually apply. I'm just a layman at a distance so my impression could well be wrong.

Actually going back and re-reading my post, It was terribly written and made little sense. While you did get my general point, I wasn't saying he would or was likely to approach anyone, just that history shows he is more likely than your average person to do so.
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