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post #1366 of 6250
The kid getting burned sounds truly horrible, but I don't see anything in that news report or the police report that makes it a hate crime. What am I missing?
post #1367 of 6250
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

I will pay $5 to anyone who can find five distinct instances of Al Sharpton speaking out against black on black crime. They can be from anytime in his forty+ years of being a professional asshole.
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Here's the money. I will paypal it out, personal payment to whoever comes through on this.

Bumping this for new page. My offer still stands.
post #1368 of 6250
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

The kid getting burned sounds truly horrible, but I don't see anything in that news report or the police report that makes it a hate crime. What am I missing?

Excised from the news accounts is allegedly this from the police report:
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"This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, White boy" before being set on fire.

I am not in favour of hate crime legislation in either direction, but it would help if the law were applied with some measure of equality.
post #1369 of 6250
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

The kid getting burned sounds truly horrible, but I don't see anything in that news report or the police report that makes it a hate crime. What am I missing?

Obviously it is only a hate crime if it's a white person committing the crime.
post #1370 of 6250
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

I will pay $5 to anyone who can find five distinct instances of Al Sharpton speaking out against black on black crime. They can be from anytime in his forty+ years of being a professional asshole.
4b0ba3d2.jpg
Here's the money. I will paypal it out, personal payment to whoever comes through on this.

You need to come up with an additional 4% to cover paypal charges. Also, who would spend any time to make five worthless dollars when it's more fun to watch a simpleton flip out?


Why should Sharpton have to speak out on black on black crime? How many people speak out on black on white white crime besides Sharpton? Besides, after all these articles explaining why Zimmerman is really white, I see that every ethnic group is white in this country except for African-Americans. Of course, race isn't important but since we have these definitions from the old South, why not just keep 'em going?
post #1371 of 6250
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Excised from the news accounts is allegedly this from the police report:
Quote:
"This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, White boy" before being set on fire.

Ok but here's the police report

http://media2.kshb.com/NWT/pdf/20120229_kcmokidburned.pdf

and it doesn't say that. It just says "this is what you get"
post #1372 of 6250
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Originally Posted by 16-Ton View Post

You need to come up with an additional 4% to cover paypal charges. Also, who would spend any time to make five worthless dollars when it's more fun to watch a simpleton flip out?
Why should Sharpton have to speak out on black on black crime? How many people speak out on black on white white crime besides Sharpton? Besides, after all these articles explaining why Zimmerman is really white, I see that every ethnic group is white in this country except for African-Americans. Of course, race isn't important but since we have these definitions from the old South, why not just keep 'em going?

I will send it personal payment, receiver will incur no fees. Five dollars is certainly not worthless to some of us. That would buy me two beers at my local bar during happy hour, or 1/2 the cost of a martini at the fancy martini bar. If you're going to denigrate the value of five dollars then this contest isn't for you and I suggest you turn elsewhere and continue acting like a flaming nincompoop.

I didn't say Sharpton HAD to speak out on black on black crime. My claim, which is disputed by another poster, is that he DOESN'T speak out on black on black crime. He also most certainly DOES NOT speak out on black on white crime.
post #1373 of 6250
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Ok but here's the police report
http://media2.kshb.com/NWT/pdf/20120229_kcmokidburned.pdf
and it doesn't say that. It just says "this is what you get"

Ok, not a hate crime then.
post #1374 of 6250
Sounds like a police coverup like the one in the Martin case. Why aren't they investigating the hate crime angle?
post #1375 of 6250
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

I will send it personal payment, receiver will incur no fees. Five dollars is certainly not worthless to some of us. That would buy me two beers at my local bar during happy hour, or 1/2 the cost of a martini at the fancy martini bar. If you're going to denigrate the value of five dollars then this contest isn't for you and I suggest you turn elsewhere and continue acting like a flaming nincompoop.
I didn't say Sharpton HAD to speak out on black on black crime. My claim, which is disputed by another poster, is that he DOESN'T speak out on black on black crime. He also most certainly DOES NOT speak out on black on white crime.

I'm not denigrating it but it's not exactly getting me excited.

Sharpton is a crusader. He could speak out on a lot of crimes including black on white or black on black crimes. It would be nice if he spoke up on black on black crime because that is a disturbing statistic. I always assumed black people had more to fear from whites than the reverse. But then, maybe I'm one of those race traitors? I thank god that my parents were not race obsessed and I didn't learn hatred when I was a child. It's an awful disease.
post #1376 of 6250
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Originally Posted by 16-Ton View Post

I'm not denigrating it but it's not exactly getting me excited.
Sharpton is a crusader. He could speak out on a lot of crimes including black on white or black on black crimes. It would be nice if he spoke up on black on black crime because that is a disturbing statistic. I always assumed black people had more to fear from whites than the reverse. But then, maybe I'm one of those race traitors? I thank god that my parents were not race obsessed and I didn't learn hatred when I was a child. It's an awful disease.

Sharpton is a pandering asshole. I don't care what he speaks out on, and I don't care if you're a "race traitor" or not (whatever that even means). My point, which you continue to miss, is only that Sharpton does not speak out on black on black crime.

And also that he's an asshole, so I guess I actually have two points.

1. Sharpton does not speak out on black on black crime.
2. Sharpton is an asshole.

I now extend my previous offer. I will pay $5 to anyone who can find five distinct instances of Sharpton speaking out on black on black crime, OR $5 to anyone who can prove Sharpton isn't an asshole.
post #1377 of 6250
I've met the Rev. Kind of a cool dude IRL. Don't hate.
post #1378 of 6250
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

I've met the Rev. Kind of a cool dude IRL. Don't hate.

This evidence is insufficient to overcome the presumption of Al's assholeness. You do not win the $5.
post #1379 of 6250
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Sharpton is a pandering asshole. I don't care what he speaks out on, and I don't care if you're a "race traitor" or not (whatever that even means). My point, which you continue to miss, is only that Sharpton does not speak out on black on black crime.
And also that he's an asshole, so I guess I actually have two points.
1. Sharpton does not speak out on black on black crime.
2. Sharpton is an asshole.
I now extend my previous offer. I will pay $5 to anyone who can find five distinct instances of Sharpton speaking out on black on black crime, OR $5 to anyone who can prove Sharpton isn't an asshole.

Al Sharpton serves a purpose. How many people speak out for the black community in the national media? Just because you don't like him or he is a loud mouth, doesn't mean he needs to go away. He is abrasive because he doesn't play by the rules and makes us look at things we don't want to look at. How long did African Americans try the subtle method of trying to be accepted, how has that turned out?


We have FOX news to scream about issues threatening whites.

A race traitor in this case would be a Caucasian who becomes suspect because he supports the cause of another race. I do it because I would like to see the issue of race disappear.

I want to hear from the expert crime analyst, George Zimmerman, exactly what made Trayvon so suspicious looking when he was legitimately on that property.
post #1380 of 6250
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Originally Posted by 16-Ton View Post

Al Sharpton serves a purpose. How many people speak out for the black community in the national media? Just because you don't like him or he is a loud mouth, doesn't mean he needs to go away. He is abrasive because he doesn't play by the rules and makes us look at things we don't want to look at. How long did African Americans try the subtle method of trying to be accepted, how has that turned out?
We have FOX news to scream about issues threatening whites.
A race traitor in this case would be a Caucasian who becomes suspect because he supports the cause of another race. I do it because I would like to see the issue of race disappear.
I want to hear from the expert crime analyst, George Zimmerman, exactly what made Trayvon so suspicious looking when he was legitimately on that property.

Is this all we get now? Vague references to making us look at things which are uncomfortable even though they have no apparent connection to this case? It is just painfully stupid innuendo and should be well below the level of the self styled intellectual liberals on this board. Sharpton, thankfully, does not speak for the black community. Nobody can just like nobody can speak for the white community. That is because they are both made up of people with different beliefs and interests and wants. You know, blacks are people, right, and not just a concept important to hand wringing white liberals. Anyway, Sharpton speaks for those who throw in with him, and for himself. Nothing more.
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