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post #16 of 28
3/18/12 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by NotoriousMarquis View Post

As soon as I see the words "midnight blue" before "tuxedo," I know its someone who's read a lot of magazines and is just looking to be kind of rebellious and unique in a way that, unfortunately, everybody else will be too.

Cynical and ridiculous. Midnight blue looks almost like black and it photographs way better. It looks better than black on a lot of people, oh no please don't more people do it.
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post #17 of 28
3/18/12 at 11:49am
is there a reason you're putting vents on an evening jacket?
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post #18 of 28
3/18/12 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by hitchedsoon View Post

Hi all, first post, long time lurker. I'm having a MTM tuxedo done for my wedding. Shawl collar, single button, side vents. My first choice for fabric was midnight blue, but this would have been 50% more expensive than the black I went with. I'm wondering if it's appropriate to get the shawl collar made in this midnight blue for a bit more style. I've seen this done, albeit rarely, most popularly by Jeremy Renner on the red carpet (http://www.esquire.com/the-side/style-guides/red-carpet/jeremy-renner-2011-oscars#slide-6).
Thanks

side vents??
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post #19 of 28
3/18/12 at 1:03pm
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Regarding side vents- I strongly dislike ventless jackets. Center vents I'm also not a big fan of, and they're discouraged for the dinner jacket. I didn't find a lot of resistance agaian side vents when I was deciding.
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post #20 of 28
3/18/12 at 1:07pm
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The more I think about all this, the more I regret not pursuing the midnight blue. To the poster that said the MB photographs better- totally, 100% agreed. Ugh, talk about buyers remorse.
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post #21 of 28
3/18/12 at 1:07pm
People are objecting because vents are not traditional on a DJ. But I got them on mine. It's no big deal. if you want them, get them.
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post #22 of 28
3/18/12 at 2:14pm
The MTM you are using probably has their pricing based on inventory purchased at full piece cloth pricing. This could be up to 80% savings per yard over buying single length cuts. Ordering single lengths slows things down and adds to the cost. It's surprising that they don't offer midnight as a basic color choice in their line.

In general terms the accents to a garment like buttons and trimmings render a better effect when they are darker than the cloth. They are more complimentary. When they are lighter in tone than the garment they draw attention to themselves and become a "feature". Think light colored buttons on a darker cloth. Opposite is true too, like dark buttons on a light colored cloth. Basic DJ should be understated to be elegant and you don't want your clothes to draw attention away form the bride.

Side vents are fine as long as you get a dressy cloth and cut, they won't compromise the look.

This DJ will be with you for a long time as will the wedding pictures. Will the shawl be appropriate for your needs after the wedding?

Is this your first MTM with this firm? Make sure you have it completed in plenty of time and anticipate a few adjustments. From time to time I've had guys order MTM Tuxedos from some shops and the results were less than stellar and their wasn't time to correct what they had made or remake a new one. Have made tuxedos in one week to have in time for their wedding. If this wasn't for your wedding I wouldn't say anything and I only mention this as a precautionary thought.
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post #23 of 28
3/18/12 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by Made in California View Post

Cynical and ridiculous. Midnight blue looks almost like black and it photographs way better. It looks better than black on a lot of people, oh no please don't more people do it.

You hit on all the reasons why I'm having remorse about not pursuing the midnight blue! Argh.
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post #24 of 28
3/18/12 at 2:22pm
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The MTM you are using probably has their pricing based on inventory purchased at full piece cloth pricing. This could be up to 80% savings per yard over buying single length cuts. Ordering single lengths slows things down and adds to the cost. It's surprising that they don't offer midnight as a basic color choice in their line.
In general terms the accents to a garment like buttons and trimmings render a better effect when they are darker than the cloth. They are more complimentary. When they are lighter in tone than the garment they draw attention to themselves and become a "feature". Think light colored buttons on a darker cloth. Opposite is true too, like dark buttons on a light colored cloth. Basic DJ should be understated to be elegant and you don't want your clothes to draw attention away form the bride.
Side vents are fine as long as you get a dressy cloth and cut, they won't compromise the look.
This DJ will be with you for a long time as will the wedding pictures. Will the shawl be appropriate for your needs after the wedding?
Is this your first MTM with this firm? Make sure you have it completed in plenty of time and anticipate a few adjustments. From time to time I've had guys order MTM Tuxedos from some shops and the results were less than stellar and their wasn't time to correct what they had made or remake a new one. Have made tuxedos in one week to have in time for their wedding. If this wasn't for your wedding I wouldn't say anything and I only mention this as a precautionary thought.

Very good advice, thank you. I had built in a good buffer of time to handle alterations beyond the fittings, precisely because this is my first experience.
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post #25 of 28
3/18/12 at 2:27pm
Are you submitting your measurements or do they measure you? Have you ever had the opportunity to try one of the garments on?
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post #26 of 28
3/18/12 at 2:35pm
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They are doing everthing in-house- measurements, fittings, and construction.
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post #27 of 28
3/18/12 at 2:41pm
So they are local to you?

Enjoy the process and good on you for getting your own tux for your wedding. Never understood why women buy the dress and then store it in a box forever and the man rents a DJ that he could wear again and again for years.
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post #28 of 28
3/18/12 at 2:49pm
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So they are local to you?
Enjoy the process and good on you for getting your own tux for your wedding. Never understood why women buy the dress and then store it in a box forever and the man rents a DJ that he could wear again and again for years.

x1000.

I was in a wedding this summer and the groom rented his tuxedo shog[1].gif... and I had to wear a rented groomsman one as well..... and on top of it, they were notch lapel, fringed lapel, hacking pocket tuxedos shog[1].gif.
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