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post #481 of 702
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I liked when he tried to get fresh with Joan when he was getting drunk at work and she told him to scram.

Poor guy. Wanted a last pop before popping off.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

My perception was that Lane was a partner, but wasn't financially compensated to the same degree as the flashier partners. He said this episode that he had been "operating at a loss the last three years." Maybe school + taxes + wife's expenses? I think that's part of his big emotional response to the bonuses; yes, he needed the money to pay back his embezzlement, but he also just felt like he deserved one after getting shat on since the new firm opened.


My sense is the show was trying to indicate he was living above his means but probably failed to convey it in a full way.
post #482 of 702
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Originally Posted by Joffrey View Post

Pete lives in the suburbs, doesn't have a child in boarding school, doesn't owe back taxes in crazy ass 1960s England plus his wife has her shit together. Not to mention his wife comes from some money.

That's what I was asking: does anybody know if her parents are contributing? It's more than just the taxes. Pete owns a house (though I know their first house/apartment was purchased by her father) and just seems better off than Lane did.
post #483 of 702
As others have mentioned, I feel as though the office scenarios that have taken precedent in the latter half of the season have felt rushed, melodramatic, and altogether unsatisfying to watch. It seems as though Matthew Weiner is satisfied with exploring the psyche of individual characters at a time whereas I always felt the character dynamics were the most interesting aspects of the show.

I'm going to miss Lane... and Peggy, too.
post #484 of 702
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Originally Posted by Teacher View Post

That's what I was asking: does anybody know if her parents are contributing? It's more than just the taxes. Pete owns a house (though I know their first house/apartment was purchased by her father) and just seems better off than Lane did.

 

One thing to consider is that if you remember from last season, the partner's each had to put up $100k and the junior partners $50k to keep SCDP afloat. Don put up Pete's 50k, but did Pete ever pay him back? I don't think it was ever mentioned. That could help explain why Lane was in a bind and Pete wasn't.

post #485 of 702
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Originally Posted by Joffrey View Post

Why wouldn't she think they could afford it? He's partner of a fancy ad agency that just landed a major account and chairman of 4A's (which I assume is prestigious). Not to mention a housewife who the show made clear several times was a bit out of touch with the family's finances.

Even if she thought they could afford it, what an idiotic move.

I know she meant well but really? You're going to pull the trigger on a major household purchase without consulting your financial officer husband? You think he's going to be OK with that even if he had Don or Roger's money?

Dumb bitch.
post #486 of 702
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Originally Posted by Virginia Dandy View Post

Even if she thought they could afford it, what an idiotic move.
I know she meant well but really? You're going to pull the trigger on a major household purchase without consulting your financial officer husband? You think he's going to be OK with that even if he had Don or Roger's money?
Dumb bitch.

I know. I just have to disclose that a close personal friend of mine awoke on his birthday to a black M5 in his driveway. He is a wealthy guy, but not showy at all. He was furious and made his feelings known to his wife. I kind of felt bad for her, but damn... that is a dumb move.
post #487 of 702
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

The more I reflect, the more I am pissed. He was a great vintage British guy, gave great texture to the office and always proved interesting. His attitudes and perspective were well constructed and thoughtfully written into the show. I just dont understand why they wrote him off.
Now what? Another boring ass affair? Another gay character (as if every show on earth doesnt have on already)? Another ethnicity?
Bad move on the part of the writers. I realize Lane, now that he's gone, was actually my favorite character on the show.
Is it possible he scored a new show or movie and had to leave? I dont think it makes sense any other way. I cant imagine they wrote him off by choice.

Lane was headed this direction from the beginning. He never really fit in, was bullied by everyone in his life, and was an emotional wreck.
post #488 of 702
I loved it when he tried to off himself in the Jag. Busted his glasses in half and then you later see him under the hood with one half of his glasses trying to fix the damn thing. I like Lane, I dont know if it was his pride that got to him or he just couldn't take the stress. If you remember back a season or two his Dad did get the better of him when he smacked him upside the head with his walking stick. Maybe he didn't want to have to face his situation with his wife, and father.
post #489 of 702
Lane's faults elicited something closer to pity from me. I empathized with him as the underdog, but he continually made choices which were either at cross purposes with his ambition, his morals, or both.
post #490 of 702
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Originally Posted by Imhoff View Post

I really hate that friend of Sally. Gives off the ultimate creeper feel.

Little by little, almost impossibly, that creep is becoming the most moral character on the show.
post #491 of 702
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post

Little by little, almost impossibly, that creep is becoming the most moral character on the show.

Actually I'd argue that Don has always been the most moral character on the show. Yes, he cheated on Betty, but he's always had a strong moral sense about everything else. He helps people in need, keeps secrets and protects others.

This year he was opposed to using Joan to get the Jaguar account, he protected Lane's reputation while still insisting on his resignation, he stands by his letter even though it may lose him the chance at bigger accounts, and even in his dreams he really doesn't want to cheat on Megan.
post #492 of 702
I think it's incredible how this show has managed to touch so many aspects of everything that's affected American society since the 50s.....

Wars
Corruption
Civil rights movement
Beatles/stones invasion and the cultural shift that accompanied them
Adolescence, kids growing up 'faster'
Women's lib
Kennedy
Russia
Divorce
Hippies
Single parents
Crushing debt
The corporate takeover
Tobacco dangers
The silliness of soccer
Etc....

I'm starting to view the show as more of the story of American life and the loss of the percieved 'innocence' of the country than anything else at this point. I'm really looking forward to seeing how far they take it.
post #493 of 702
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post

Little by little, almost impossibly, that creep is becoming the most moral character on the show.

There are no moral characters in the show.

Megan is the closest thing but she will show color eventually. Those parents? Sucking cock at the party? Cheating dad?
post #494 of 702
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Originally Posted by Virginia Dandy View Post

Even if she thought they could afford it, what an idiotic move.
I know she meant well but really? You're going to pull the trigger on a major household purchase without consulting your financial officer husband? You think he's going to be OK with that even if he had Don or Roger's money?
Dumb bitch.
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Originally Posted by NoNothingGuy View Post

I know. I just have to disclose that a close personal friend of mine awoke on his birthday to a black M5 in his driveway. He is a wealthy guy, but not showy at all. He was furious and made his feelings known to his wife. I kind of felt bad for her, but damn... that is a dumb move.
I really hate all those car commercials (Lexus I guess?) where people get escorted outside at Christmas to the car with the big bow.
post #495 of 702
Sally's friend and Betty [Draper ] Francis

perfect for each other
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