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post #151 of 702
wonder if megan will be killed with all the references to serial killers and the fact that there is no way don will be this happy married guy all season.
post #152 of 702
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

I don't mean to be a dick but how can you tell? I find Mad Men previews to be totally inscrutable.

Betty wasn't in it, and every frame took place in either the office or a womin'z bedroom.
post #153 of 702
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Well, I brought up Chekhov's gun earlier in this thread, and I was totally expecting it to be used last night. .
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wonder if megan will be killed with all the references to serial killers and the fact that there is no way don will be this happy married guy all season.

I think you're on to something. Obviously the show has referenced current events throughout and the killings were a big deal, but there has been to much mention of the gun for it not to come into play somehow.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Pete is not becoming Don. Pete wishes he could become Don but that closing scene i described above should indicate Pete has realized his inability to become Don.

Even better was the scene at Pete's house where Don rips off his shirt, flexes, and fixes the faucet while Pete fumbles with his "tool."

The fight had me laughing, Sterling is by far the most consistent bright spot on the show.
Loved the world cup reference as well. "cup of what?"
post #154 of 702
"I know cooler heads should prevail, but am I the only one who wants to see this?" - Roger Sterling commenting before the fight

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post #155 of 702
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Pete is not becoming Don. Pete wishes he could become Don but that closing scene i described above should indicate Pete has realized his inability to become Don.

Even better was the scene at Pete's house where Don rips off his shirt, flexes, and fixes the faucet while Pete fumbles with his "tool."

Another excellent point. And don't forget all three women applauding Don for his "performance." I think much of the show was dedicated to re-affirming Don's alpha status and driving home Peter's beta-dom in several different plot threads.

Peter did give me laughs when he had the hoe going through which fantasy routine she should play.
post #156 of 702
For those of you with a background in psychology consider that Pete is the epitomy of Adler's inferiority complex. He is constantly trying to use whatever power he can to upstage "dad" and reaffirm his place in the pecking order. It is obvious that his father never approved of his choice to enter the advertising world and he has been looking for a surrogate father to on the one hand lift him up (Don, Roger, Lane, lest we remember that Roger gave him a second lease on his job in season one and in season 3, Don and Roger came begging Pete to join them) and then on the other for him to "bring them down" and make them feel as small as he does on the inside. For instance, his crude attemps at humiliating Lane this week and Roger the week before (the plane statue unveiling, the reference to Lane as homo, all reeks of phallic symbols and the need to assert himself as "the man."). All this boils down to Pete wishing to be the "big daddy" but he is left feeling like a child. Nothing has ever satisfied him, not Trudy, not his daughter, not even being made a partner. He is always striving to be affirmed and made a "king." The fact he needs to pay a prostitue to do this, when Don (except for one occasion) has never had to pay for women to revel in his charm and looks, only reaffirms Peter's inner longing but outer hatred for Don in the awkward cab ride.


Pete's attempt to win over the impressionable young girl at the driver's ed class suggests a complex dynamic within Pete. He loses out to "handsome" which is clearly a surrogate for Don and every other man in his life that has upstaged him. Notice that Pete looks at his muscles and crotch when "Handsome" is introduced. Pete longs to have "it" whether it be with women, in business, or in his family. He even has a strong reaction to being potentially labeled impotent in season 2 as an insult to his manhood. Even his offspring will long for this father figure, as he is clearly absent (I had not a thing to do with her, in reference to his daughter) from both of his children's lives literally and figuratively. It is the cycle repeating itself. He has no investment in real relationships aside from ones that reaffirm or deny his power and status in life, much like his father's original renunciation of his manhood (calling him a whore in season 2 discussing advertising).

His attempts to literally ovetake and destroy "dad" have all ended in failure as well. His ttempt to blackmail Don, his attempt to take out Roger (who in a way has become more invested in his work than ever, at least for him), and literally being beaten up by Lane. When Pete says he "has nothing" at the end of the episode I believe he means he "is" nothing. He is not a man. He is a child who cannot even figure out his own plumbing. Much like the reference to Beethoven in Kosgrove's story, he lacks the ability to utilize his tools and is left fumbling in the dark alone and scared.

I have way too much free time at work. sorry if this was boring to you guys and I do not blame you in the slightest for not reading it.
post #157 of 702
The hooker Pete banged = drool.gifdrool.gifdrool.gifdrool.gifdrool.gifdrool.gif
post #158 of 702
Don's "country" sportcoat was good for an MC laugh.
post #159 of 702
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Don's "country" sportcoat was good for an MC laugh.

Did you catch Peter's tie?
post #160 of 702
AAWWWWESOME episode...too much good stuff to cover.

Loved when they were discussing the Univ Texas shooter and someone said his last name was "Whitmer"...Don quickly interrupted with "Whitman".

I also missed this....
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Or how about the two different historical massacres that have played into the storylines this season? The first murderer, who raped, tortured and killed eight student nurses was Richard Speck. The second (mentioned on last night's episode), who killed 16 people — including his wife and mother — was Charles Whitman. Richard Speck. Charles Whitman. Richard Whitman. Dick Whitman.

mind. blown.
post #161 of 702
Didn't Pete call Don "Dick" when the sink faucet started leaking?
post #162 of 702
Is this the last season or is that predicted to be next year? I ask given that Dick Whitman thing above. I always get the feeling the series ends on a very final note and not well for Don.
post #163 of 702

...that had to be the best Mad Men episode ever!

 

"Grimey little pimp!"

post #164 of 702
"Mr. Campbell, you and I are going to address that insult."


post #165 of 702
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gort View Post

It's funny to watch Lane in Mad Men if you are also a Fringe Fan since he is on that show right now as the main villain they are after.
Also, Ken's wife seems to be quite a bit older than him, no?

I saw that. But even though I saw him on Fringe first, Jared Harris is to me Lane Pryce now. He's done a good job embodying the character.
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Didn't Pete call Don "Dick" when the sink faucet started leaking?

I thought that was a slip. But then last season Sterling asked Joan where "Mr. Holloway" was. Then again, Sterling doesn't care about people's spouses. Honestly, I think his immediate peers are okay with it now. Whitman is whatever he made Don Draper into.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Is this the last season or is that predicted to be next year? I ask given that Dick Whitman thing above. I always get the feeling the series ends on a very final note and not well for Don.

Sixth season for sure, I think there was an option for seven. The rumour was Weiner wanted it to end with a shot of Draper in the present day - whatever he will be. It's looking rather like Campbell will be the one falling off the building right after or before Sterling.

All in all, I thought the episode was actually a continuation of last season when Draper was still spending his time mentoring Campbell (paying his share of the partnership, etc.) because God knows his late father and no one else in his life is willing to do it. I thought it was rather pathetic he was hoping Draper would bail him out when he was in the lift at the very end. Maybe this is a turning point for Campbell to know his place again in the agency - he can't buy his way into Draper's old life, and he realizes there is still a thing or two Sterling knows about account management that he has yet to grasp.
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