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post #9031 of 14887
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post
 

I've been looking at the dark oak with mink suede, but those shots by stevent may move me to the country calf shaft.  Also, gives me a real incentive to place my order already.


You really can't go wrong.

 

Besides either way you chose you'll probably ended up getting the other one for your second pair of Galways later on.

 

 

Good Luck with your decision.

post #9032 of 14887
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Originally Posted by Nikola View Post


This is exactly what I thought when I received my shoes. That someone must have tried them on before me in the Boutique. So I started searching the forum for answers.


However, that "crease" will stay there for good. I also thought It will "iron" using shoe trees over time. Never happened.

Normal creases should be a bit more towards the instep.

post #9033 of 14887
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Originally Posted by Chowkin View Post


Normal creases should be a bit more towards the instep.


Of course. This is far more serious than a natural creasing .. It's the permanent construction fault .. It's shocking to see such thing on a $ 1,200+ first quality shoe .. I think 99 out of 100 guys won't notice this when buying the shoe. Neither did I.

However, now, every single time I wear them, all I see is that broken toe box area, and It's driving me crazy to the point I want to sell them off.

post #9034 of 14887
I feel like this is a question for @DWFII

I'm not saying it's not the toe stiffener, but i also don't know if it's broken, or a construction fault, or if it's just an benign eye sore due to the plastic toe puff...
post #9035 of 14887

@DWFII Just to save your from the effort of browsing the thread pages and finding what bothers us: Here is the trouble again:





Do you happen to know what causes this, and is there something that can be done to "iron" or "straighten" the affected area once it left the factory?

post #9036 of 14887
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Originally Posted by Nikola View Post

It's been discussed in GG and CJ thread .. I circled it for you.


"In the G&G thread there is a lot of discussion by a bespoke bookmaker who criticizes some of the internal materials choices from the higher end RTW makers, particularly plastic or other synthetic toe puffs and heel cups. Of course many bespoke makers use similar pre made parts, rather than shaping leather for the same areas. I don't know anything about it but ti's probably worth checking out that other thread."


I have this issue too in one of my John Lobb shoes. It really kills the look, and I was unaware of it the first time I purchased it. Now, all I look when ordering a shoe is this.







I don't see what the problem is...shoes will crease. They will crease at the tread line center of the medial joint to center of lateral joint and they will crease just behind the toe puff (or even just ahead of the toe puff, depending on the foot, the fit, and the materials used) and most of the time, in-between.
post #9037 of 14887
Nikola,

Ships passing in the night...

If there wasn't a toe stiffener the shoe would crease all the way to the toe. The stiffener prevents that. And the better the stiffener, the better it prevents it.

The only variable is the foot.

And the fit.

And the way a person walks.

And the skill/attention-to-detail that has been brought to bear in installing the toe stiffener.

Additionally, the longer the shoe is beyond the toes the more forward the creasing is apt to occur.

The creases in the photos of both of those shoes are...in the absence of any mitigating information...perfectly acceptable and normal. Maybe better than normal as the creases go straight across the vamps rather than at odd angles.

The only way to avoid creases is to tree the shoes immediately upon purchase and never wear them. Nothing will eliminate them or "iron" them out once established and set.
post #9038 of 14887

@DWFII But this doesn't feel or look like a normal crease. Actually, it's not creased at all.

The part shown here in real life feels like it's fallen into the structure of the shoe, you can feel under the finger like the structure has cracked only in that area .. It is not even and smooth like on the other shoe when you move your finger against it.

What bothered me most, is that not all shoes have this "thing" ..

I just wanted to point it out, and maybe help someone buying the new pair to just take the notice .. 

Thanks for your time

post #9039 of 14887
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Originally Posted by Nikola View Post

@DWFII
But this doesn't feel or look like a normal crease. Actually, it's not creased at all.


The part shown here in real life feels like it's fallen into the structure of the shoe, you can feel under the finger like the structure has cracked only in that area .. It is not even and smooth like on the other shoe when you move your finger against it.


What bothered me most, is that not all shoes have this "thing" ..


I just wanted to point it out, and maybe help someone buying the new pair to just take the notice .. 


Thanks for your time

It could be cracked and fallen into the shoe...if the toe stiffener is plastic or celastic or resin impregnated paper.

Or if the stiffener...regardless of the materials used...has not been properly "blended'" (skived and shaped) into the lines of the last and shoe, you could feel a lump. Or see/feel the edge of the stiffener. And if it has not been thinned properly it would almost certainly crease "clumsily." Meaning that the crease will be thick and heavy and create a pronounced lump.

Echoing JubaiSpiegel's comments, without seeing and examining the shoes, first hand, I can't say if it's normal or not. All I can go by is the photo. Probably the best thing...if you think the "crease" is awkward or abnormal... is to take them back and complain.
post #9040 of 14887

Just relax and enjoy your shoes already!  WTF?

post #9041 of 14887
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Originally Posted by thebeebs View Post

Just relax and enjoy your shoes already!  WTF?

Indeed. Some people are really overreacting here. If you want the perfection then go for bespoke shoes, just be warned bespoke shoes will crease too.
post #9042 of 14887
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Originally Posted by thebeebs View Post
 

Just relax and enjoy your shoes already!  WTF?

 

+10^1000

post #9043 of 14887
To be fair...

Not only is there no perfection in bespoke shoes...or indeed anything done by the hand of men...but if the toe stiffener is too thick at the crease or is cracked, and/or if it is producing a lump, it could be pretty uncomfortable.
post #9044 of 14887
This is the EG Appreciation Thread, not the EG Complaining Thread
post #9045 of 14887
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Originally Posted by thebeebs View Post

This is the EG Appreciation Thread, not the EG Complaining Thread

Well and good. Just for the record, however, I didn't do any complaining (I don't think anyone has suggested it, but just sayin') I just answered the request for more information.

Beyond that however, if appreciation means turning a blind eye and a deaf ear to real problems, then "sub-par" and ignorance are the only things being appreciated
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