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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

D or E width?
You know, I didn't check but assumed it was a standard width boot -- my feet are normal width (maybe just a touch narrow) and the fit seemed good. Not sure BB carries anything other than standard EG -- I guess a UK E and US D. Please advise if that sounds off.
post #7637 of 14918
E seems to be the stock width for the 82 while d is usually the stock width on the 202. I do not believe it is a hard and fast rule.
post #7638 of 14918
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post

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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

D or E width?
You know, I didn't check but assumed it was a standard width boot -- my feet are normal width (maybe just a touch narrow) and the fit seemed good. Not sure BB carries anything other than standard EG -- I guess a UK E and US D. Please advise if that sounds off.

I understand that BB currently carries EGs in only E width. And that is UK E width. I have handled and/or own a number of BB's current models and without exception they have been E width.

Many of you already know this, but perhaps it will be helpful to some: On BB's website, an 888 lasted shoe with a size listed as 9E is actually the
following: 8.5/9 E888. In other words, the length is given in US sizes and the width given is the UK width.
post #7639 of 14918
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

E seems to be the stock width for the 82 while d is usually the stock width on the 202. I do not believe it is a hard and fast rule.

I understand that E is the primary width for all stock models on all lasts. Certain US retailers, however, carry almost exclusively D width offerings (Axels or Sid Mashburn for example).

As proof of this, I recently received from EG (direct) a listing of its stock models. Various stock models come in two or more colors; certain stock models also come on different lasts (Think Chelsea on 82 and 202). i requested D width and E width in my size. For D width models I received a listing of 1 page that was about half full. For E width models I received a listing of 7 full pages.
post #7640 of 14918
Seven fold,

That is very interesting and puzzling to me. Here's why. Clearly there is a difference between British and American lengths. That is why Green prints two (both) lengths. For many if not most British makers, E is the standard width. I would say in the US a D width is standard. But Green only prints one width. What does that mean? Green has said in the past that their shoes should fit snugly in width, like a slipper. More snugly than Americans are used to. I have always understood the upshot to be that no translation of widths is necessary.

But perhaps Green is giving in to reality and saying Americans expect a UK E to be the standard width for a British-made shoe, and so be it. Perhaps Green is having its cake and eating it too. If they can get Americans to like a snugger width, then fine. If they can't, then when Americans buy a Green E, they just think they are getting the standard British-sized width. Clever, no?

I wear a standard US D width, and all of my Greens are D also. They fit fine. I have lasts 202, 82, and 606. No 888's.
post #7641 of 14918
Leaves, that Hove is incredible. And I like the new R1 sole.
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Edited by S K M - 3/16/14 at 10:22am
post #7643 of 14918
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post

8.5 UK/9 US - at least for 82 last, which i understand is likely same as 64. I'm an 8.5 Alden Barrie. Thought I might need an 8/8.5 but the length wouldn't work for me.

Sir, if you take a size 8.5 EUK in the 82 last same as me then you will be fine with a size 8 in the 64 last , I only need a 8.5 in the 82 and 888 last the rest are fine for me in size Uk 8.
The 82 and 64 last are quit different IMHO
post #7644 of 14918

^ Thank you.  So go down 1/2 size from 82 last for the 64 last.

post #7645 of 14918
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Originally Posted by stevent View Post

Been thinking about this shoe from LS years back:

csan1.jpg

Any interest in a GMTO?

Model: Sandringham (with thistle)
Color: Cognac (Cigar) Crup
Last: 202 (believe only last 202 is available on)
Sole: Double leather / dainite
Welt: Storm


Very nice colors.

post #7646 of 14918
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Originally Posted by stevent View Post

Been thinking about this shoe from LS years back:

csan1.jpg

Any interest in a GMTO?

Model: Sandringham (with thistle)
Color: Cognac (Cigar) Crup
Last: 202 (believe only last 202 is available on)
Sole: Double leather / dainite
Welt: Storm

I don't mean to be blasphemous but that is pretty close to the RL Marlow shell wingtip (sans thistle):

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1812819&cp=1760781.1898623&ab=ln_men_cs2_shoes&s=D-StorePrice-POLO&pg=1&parentPage=family
post #7647 of 14918
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Originally Posted by mxgreen View Post

I don't mean to be blasphemous but that is pretty close to the RL Marlow shell wingtip (sans thistle):

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1812819&cp=1760781.1898623&ab=ln_men_cs2_shoes&s=D-StorePrice-POLO&pg=1&parentPage=family

They are similar at first glance. The differences are subtle, but it is the subtle differences that distinguish a good shoe from a great one. Very little is new today in -tasteful- shoe design.
post #7648 of 14918
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Originally Posted by 89826 View Post

Seven fold,

That is very interesting and puzzling to me. Here's why. Clearly there is a difference between British and American lengths. That is why Green prints two (both) lengths. For many if not most British makers, E is the standard width. I would say in the US a D width is standard. But Green only prints one width. What does that mean? Green has said in the past that their shoes should fit snugly in width, like a slipper. More snugly than Americans are used to. I have always understood the upshot to be that no translation of widths is necessary.

But perhaps Green is giving in to reality and saying Americans expect a UK E to be the standard width for a British-made shoe, and so be it. Perhaps Green is having its cake and eating it too. If they can get Americans to like a snugger width, then fine. If they can't, then when Americans buy a Green E, they just think they are getting the standard British-sized width. Clever, no?

I wear a standard US D width, and all of my Greens are D also. They fit fine. I have lasts 202, 82, and 606. No 888's.

if all of your Greens are D width, that is a UK D width, which is considered, at least by EG, to be slightly more narrow than medium/standard/regular width. Some US retailers carry EGs only in D width and they erroneously tell customers it is standard width.

I agree with you that EGs D width many times doesn't feel much different than a US D width. In my experience, that depends on the last. I have a few 82 lasted bals and the 82D is noticeably more snug than the 82E. Further, my 82D is noticeably more snug than a typical US D width. I can, and do, wear D and E widths in all the lasts you mention. And a D width in the 82 is easily the most snug.
post #7649 of 14918
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post

^ Thank you.  So go down 1/2 size from 82 last for the 64 last.

FWIW, I am the same size in 82 and 64.
post #7650 of 14918
A lot of it IMO has to do with desired fit. A 8 uk E and a 8.5 uk D are very similar. I can get away with either.
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