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So jealous... ignorance is bliss. If I don't know what they have, I will not be tempted to pick something up. satisfied.gif
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All, I've seen this raised several times (even in this thread) with no conclusive answer. Perhaps there isnt one. Is EG's standard width E or D?
I've seen it sometimes characterized as EG sells a UK E which is equivalent to a US D. If that is the case, why do many retailers in the US stock D widths as standard?
Perhaps there is no standard and EG has two common widths. If that is the case I'm curious to know how two of their biggest US retailers (Leffot and Leather Soul) made the decision to carry different widths for their RTW shoes and I wonder what was EG's advice to the companies. Perhaps West Coast Americans have wider feet?

I was thinking about this a while ago. I believe that EG's standard is UK E. Most of my orders are placed directly through EG on Jermyn St, but I did buy a pair at Saks in NYC once. When shopping there, it surprised me that Saks seems to stock mostly D widths. When I bought my first pair via e-mail order, I had a back and forth with the EG sales manager, and he suggested that if I wanted a snug fitting shoe that would conform and stretch a little over time, I go with a D, otherwise for a looser fit, choose an E. I went with the D width on the 888, and it fit fine. Since then, I've gotten a E on the 202, as well as another 888 in an E. The E is certainly a bit more comfortable, but I don't really notice a huge difference between the two widths - both are wearable for me.
post #603 of 10302
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I believe EG has three UK widths: D-narrow, E-regular, and F-wide
As far as I know the UK E is a US D, and the UK F would correlate to a US E. I'm pretty sure they don't make anything wider.

Depending on the last there are more widths than this, e.g. the 888 exists definitely in B-Width, C-Width, D-Width, E-Width and there might be more. Most of them you probably only get when you purchase MTO. For the 202 I have seen B-Width, C-Width, D-Width, E-Width in the London store - again there might be more widths available.

My impression was that, contrary to other English makers like C&J, the widths correspond rather well to American widths (e.g. the EG B and C widths are similar to Allen Edmonds B and C widths).
post #604 of 10302
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My impression was that, contrary to other English makers like C&J, the widths correspond rather well to American widths (e.g. the EG B and C widths are similar to Allen Edmonds B and C widths).

Finding equivalence between UK vs. US width is always interesting...
post #605 of 10302
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Originally Posted by GucciKid View Post

I believe EG has three UK widths: D-narrow, E-regular, and F-wide
As far as I know the UK E is a US D, and the UK F would correlate to a US E. I'm pretty sure they don't make anything wider.

I don't think there is a such thing as UK v. US widths. I could be wrong here, but I think that there are just C, D, E, F widths (and others) no matter where you buy their branded shoes. I know I am a solid D person and 90% of my EG's are in D's. E's in the same size still fit, but they are roomier.
post #606 of 10302
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I don't think there is a such thing as UK v. US widths. I could be wrong here, but I think that there are just C, D, E, F widths (and others) no matter where you buy their branded shoes. I know I am a solid D person and 90% of my EG's are in D's. E's in the same size still fit, but they are roomier.

 

US D width is UK E width.

post #607 of 10302
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US D width is UK E width.

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post #608 of 10302
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

US D width is UK E width.

Are you saying that UK E for EG is similar to other manufacturers' D width in the US. If so I guess that makes sense. If you are saying that EG makes an E for the UK market which is equivalent to an EG D they sell for the US market I don't think that is true. Retailers in the US sell both E's and D's as their stock/standard width.
post #609 of 10302
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Are you saying that UK E for EG is similar to other manufacturers' D width in the US. If so I guess that makes sense. If you are saying that EG makes an E for the UK market which is equivalent to an EG D they sell for the US market I don't think that is true. Retailers in the US sell both E's and D's as their stock/standard width.


US D (normal) width translates into UK E (normal) width.

post #610 of 10302
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US D (normal) width translates into UK E (normal) width.

I'm trying to understand what you are saying. I understand for John Lobb that their E width is equivalent to Allen Edmonds (and other US manufacturers) D width. All US retailers for John Lobb sell their RTW shoes in an E width - this makes sense because it is equivalent to a US D.

For EG, however, some retailers sell a D (Leffot, Saks) while other sell a E (Leather Soul). if I buy a pair of Westministers stock from Leffot versus stock from Leather Soul I am getting a different width shoe, correct?
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I'm trying to understand what you are saying. I understand for John Lobb that their E width is equivalent to Allen Edmonds (and other US manufacturers) D width. All US retailers for John Lobb sell their RTW shoes in an E width - this makes sense because it is equivalent to a US D.
For EG, however, some retailers sell a D (Leffot, Saks) while other sell a E (Leather Soul). if I buy a pair of Westministers stock from Leffot versus stock from Leather Soul I am getting a different width shoe, correct?

 

Not sure about Saks, but Leffot carry UK sizing according to their drop down tag.  So if you buy Westminister in, say, 8.5/9E at Leffot or LS, you wiill be getting the same sized/width shoes.

 

http://leffot.com/shop/edward-green-black-westminster/

post #612 of 10302
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Not sure about Saks, but Leffot carry UK sizing according to their drop down tag.  So if you buy Westminister in, say, 8.5/9E at Leffot or LS, you wiill be getting the same sized/width shoes.

http://leffot.com/shop/edward-green-black-westminster/

Interesting. To date most of Leffot's shoes have been D's - http://leffot.com/2012/06/10/edward-green-mercer/

Perhaps he is changing to E's. I'll ask Steven about this.
post #613 of 10302
I have seen Saks carry specific styles in E and others in D. Unfortunately, the SA really do not have any insight. I guess it is up to what the buyers combined with what EG rep recommends.
post #614 of 10302
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Interesting. To date most of Leffot's shoes have been D's - http://leffot.com/2012/06/10/edward-green-mercer/
Perhaps he is changing to E's. I'll ask Steven about this.

I think that may be the U.S. size (ask Steven to be sure). That said, most appear to be UK "E" to me:

http://leffot.com/shop/edward-green-dark-oak-westminster/
post #615 of 10302
My understanding is that a D is a D and an E is an E regardless of where they are sold, . Different stores simply stock different widths as standard, and this can vary depending on the last. Some lasts are narrower than others, so the stores order E widths for those lasts.

The Jermyn street store stocks E widths as standard because, according to Christopher the store manager, the English have wider feet than Americans. As noted above, different stores in the US stock different widths, so it's best to ask the store prior to purchasing. This becomes an issue when dealing with Brooks Brothers and Ralph Lauren, because many of the SAs don't know.
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