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Chelsea Black 82 last 6.5E from Edwards of Manchester Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)











It appears as you black captoe collection will soon include at least one pair from each of the most popular shoe makers.


Very nice, Congrats.


Yes, hopefully. biggrin.gif
post #4532 of 20541
Wow what a collection and a half, love the boots selection of boots, here I am thinking I am a nut for boots but glad to know I am not the only one with the illness! Thank you for sharing this lovely collection.
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Think it takes a while to find what works for you and what doesn't. Certainly, I don't need much in the way of formal shoes as that would just be over-dressing for work which is business casual and even wearing a welted shoe is out of the ordinary. I don't think calf oxfords really work with anything other than suits, so I might admire some of the shoes on here but I wouldn't wear them.

Some people find that the thought of wearing vintage stuff leaves them cold, and that's fine with me. The good thing about buying vintage is that it's generally relatively inexpensive, so a good way of finding what works for you and what doesn't. Also, most people selling vintage don't know what they're selling so it can be very easy to just flip the stuff that doesn't work for you at a healthy profit, which funds the next couple of pairs.

I've taken some pics of my whole, now-streamlined, collection tonight and in the absence of anywhere else to post them have hidden them in the spoiler below with an on-topic rehash of some recent Galway porn. Apologies to everyone else for the diversion!

The Edward Green 'Galway' pic (from left): almond country calf; mink suede, walnut country calf and shearling lining; rosewood country calf (made on 64 F last for Holland & Holland)

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The Tricker's pic (from left): unknown model of navvy boot, possibly 1950s; high-leg brogue boot predecessor to the 'Malton'; MTO 'Eaton', semi-brogue version of the 'Stow'

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The Crockett & Jones pic (left to right, back row first): 'Snowdon' veldtschoen boot; 'Arran' boot in rough-out; 'Coniston'; 'Skye' brogue boot; 'Islay' brogue boot




The heavy-duty boot pic (left to right, back row first): 'Selkirk' veldtschoen boot by Alfred Sargent; WW2 Lotus veldtschoen boot originally worn by a Czech officer who fought with the British Empire forces; WW2 Lotus veldtschoen boot originally belonging to a 'T Windows', whoever he might be; CC41-stamped boot made of 'Beva' leather by an unknown maker, dating from 1941-1948

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The brogue pic (left to right, back row first): C&J 'Hastings' made for James Purdey; C&J 'Hastings'; Church's 'Grafton'; C&J 'Argyll' made for Hoggs

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The Church's pic (left to right): 'Consul', 'Buck', 'Delegate'

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The random pic (left to right, back row first): Alfred Sargent brogue for Hope & Glory; Grenson boat shoes; Tricker's suede derby; Alfred Sargent 'Egham' for Shipton & Heneage

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The chukka pic (left to right, back row first): Alfred Sargent; Edward Green; Alfred Sargent for Hackett; Tricker's; Loake for Brocklehurst of Bakewell





And breathe...
post #4533 of 20541
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Originally Posted by sdolina View Post

Very nice, lucky you all wearing EG oxfords, too low instep for my feet = nasty V-opening.
But I have few derbies instead, my small EG collection so far:

1000

Very nice.
What soles are on the suedes?
post #4534 of 20541
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Originally Posted by CTBrummie View Post

 

Think it takes a while to find what works for you and what doesn't. Certainly, I don't need much in the way of formal shoes as that would just be over-dressing for work which is business casual and even wearing a welted shoe is out of the ordinary. I don't think calf oxfords really work with anything other than suits, so I might admire some of the shoes on here but I wouldn't wear them.

 

Some people find that the thought of wearing vintage stuff leaves them cold, and that's fine with me. The good thing about buying vintage is that it's generally relatively inexpensive, so a good way of finding what works for you and what doesn't. Also, most people selling vintage don't know what they're selling so it can be very easy to just flip the stuff that doesn't work for you at a healthy profit, which funds the next couple of pairs.

 

I've taken some pics of my whole, now-streamlined, collection tonight and in the absence of anywhere else to post them have hidden them in the spoiler below with an on-topic rehash of some recent Galway porn. Apologies to everyone else for the diversion!

 

The Edward Green 'Galway' pic (from left): almond country calf; mink suede, walnut country calf and shearling lining; rosewood country calf (made on 64 F last for Holland & Holland)

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

The Tricker's pic (from left): unknown model of navvy boot, possibly 1950s; high-leg brogue boot predecessor to the 'Malton'; MTO 'Eaton', semi-brogue version of the 'Stow'

 

 

The Crockett & Jones pic (left to right, back row first): 'Snowdon' veldtschoen boot; 'Arran' boot in rough-out; 'Coniston'; 'Skye' brogue boot; 'Islay' brogue boot

 

 

The heavy-duty boot pic (left to right, back row first): 'Selkirk' veldtschoen boot by Alfred Sargent; WW2 Lotus veldtschoen boot originally worn by a Czech officer who fought with the British Empire forces; WW2 Lotus veldtschoen boot originally belonging to a 'T Windows', whoever he might be; CC41-stamped boot made of 'Beva' leather by an unknown maker, dating from 1941-1948

 

 

The brogue pic (left to right, back row first): C&J 'Hastings' made for James Purdey; C&J 'Hastings'; Church's 'Grafton'; C&J 'Argyll' made for Hoggs

 

 

The Church's pic (left to right): 'Consul', 'Buck', 'Delegate'

 

 

The random pic (left to right, back row first): Alfred Sargent brogue for Hope & Glory; Grenson boat shoes; Tricker's suede derby; Alfred Sargent 'Egham' for Shipton & Heneage

 

 

The chukka pic (left to right, back row first): Alfred Sargent; Edward Green; Alfred Sargent for Hackett; Tricker's; Loake for Brocklehurst of Bakewell

 

 

 

And breathe...

 

That is one heck of a collection, thanks for sharing.

 

It's a bit hard to completely appreciate your collection without knowing a bit more about the actual vintage boots you own. However I can appreciate that these might not be that easy to locate, especially given the condition they appear to be in. I do find it amazing that they look to be in such good condition for their age. Was there anything special that you had to do upon receiving them besides conditioning them and possibly getting them resoled? If you resole a vintage boot would this in any way take away from it's actual value?

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That is one heck of a collection, thanks for sharing.

 

It's a bit hard to completely appreciate your collection without knowing a bit more about the actual vintage boots you own. However I can appreciate that these might not be that easy to locate, especially given the condition they appear to be in. I do find it amazing that they look to be in such good condition for their age. Was there anything special that you had to do upon receiving them besides conditioning them and possibly getting them resoled? If you resole a vintage boot would this in any way take away from it's actual value?

 

Thanks for the comments, all, and apologies again for veering off topic.

 

The oldest stuff I own is made of heavier, waxy leathers such as zug (heather gorse in EG-speak), smooth gorse leather or similar. As such, they might have weathered the years better than their regular calf counterpoints. It's worth noting that pretty much all of the 'plus points' you see listed as being applicable to shell are also equally applicable to waxy calf leather, and waxy calf leather tends to handle wet weather a lot better than shell.

 

The Lotus boots and shoes (the direct forerunner to the 'trad' Galway and also EG's 'Dundee' model) were renowned for their durability and if you search for 'Lotus veldtschoen' you'll be able to find shedloads of adverts from the 1920s onwards that extol their durability often with a very whimsical 'Merrie England' sensibility. The pair that belonged to the Czech army man still have their original soles, whereas the I had the others resoled as they started to split. I'd only resole shoes or boots that I was intended to keep for myself, otherwise I'd let the new owner choose the fate of the soles.

 

For the vintage boots, often all they need is a toothbrush scrub with (saddle) soapy water and a good waxing afterwards. Simple as that.

post #4536 of 20541
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Originally Posted by CTBrummie View Post

 

Thanks for the comments, all, and apologies again for veering off topic.

 

The oldest stuff I own is made of heavier, waxy leathers such as zug (heather gorse in EG-speak), smooth gorse leather or similar. As such, they might have weathered the years better than their regular calf counterpoints. It's worth noting that pretty much all of the 'plus points' you see listed as being applicable to shell are also equally applicable to waxy calf leather, and waxy calf leather tends to handle wet weather a lot better than shell.

 

The Lotus boots and shoes (the direct forerunner to the 'trad' Galway and also EG's 'Dundee' model) were renowned for their durability and if you search for 'Lotus veldtschoen' you'll be able to find shedloads of adverts from the 1920s onwards that extol their durability often with a very whimsical 'Merrie England' sensibility. The pair that belonged to the Czech army man still have their original soles, whereas the I had the others resoled as they started to split. I'd only resole shoes or boots that I was intended to keep for myself, otherwise I'd let the new owner choose the fate of the soles.

 

For the vintage boots, often all they need is a toothbrush scrub with (saddle) soapy water and a good waxing afterwards. Simple as that.

 

 

Very interesting, thanks for expanding a bit and providing us with more detailed information. I for one enjoyed the small diversion.

 

Thank you,

 

Dan

post #4537 of 20541
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

Chelsea Black 82 last 6.5E from Edwards of Manchester








How do they compare with the G&G you posted on that thread?
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They run a bit smaller than my other 6.5Es, quite snug when new.
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Thanks.  Quality wise?  

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can't really tell the difference, but the leathers feel different, whether one is better than the other is another story.
post #4541 of 20541
Part two of an interview with Hilary Freeman, Managing Director of EG:

http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2013/08/all-things-edward-green-interview-with_25.html
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Originally Posted by sdolina View Post

 

Very nice, lucky you all wearing EG oxfords, too low instep for my feet = nasty V-opening.

But I have few derbies instead, my small EG collection so far:

 

1000

 

Harrogates for the win!  Here are mine on the hoof:

 

post #4543 of 20541
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

Chelsea Black 82 last 6.5E from Edwards of Manchester








Nice. Classic. I have the exact same shoe on the 202 last in 9/9.5D.
post #4544 of 20541
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Originally Posted by jhcam8 View Post


Very nice.
What soles are on the suedes?

 

sage chukka (nubuck) on the single leather sole, oyster derby (suede) on the thin rubber sole.

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Part two of an interview with Hilary Freeman, Managing Director of EG:

http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2013/08/all-things-edward-green-interview-with_25.html

Thank you for posting PhiloVance, it will be interesting to see the Westminster with the dianite sole and I wonder what last they will use for this!
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