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Edward Green Appreciation: Pictures, Info, and Where to Buy - Page 1900post #28486 of 3023710/5/16 at 6:17pmpost #28487 of 3023710/5/16 at 6:26pmpost #28488 of 3023710/5/16 at 6:33pmQuote:
I agree that Vass brings a different aesthetic - and a different mix of comparative strengths - but I don't think those factors render a value comparison meaningless.Quote:
Agreed with all of the above.post #28489 of 3023710/5/16 at 6:38pmpost #28490 of 3023710/5/16 at 9:01pmpost #28491 of 3023710/5/16 at 9:41pmQuote:Originally Posted by Nikola
I believe each brand will find out if they prove to be expensive ..
EG is amazing, probably the best RTW Northampton shoe manufacturer, however considering hand welted Vass shoes now costing 50% less it really raises some questions .. Yes, I know - labor and running costs in the UK are probably much higher than those in Hungary, however I don't think the average buyer really cares about that much ..
Luckily I managed to acquire a pair of 202 lasted Chelsea from the forum dearest flipper - sausages, few days ago before the price change and waiting for them to arrive.
I agree it's probably the best quality RTW made shoe in the UK, but prices do look out of whack when you consider Cheaney make a Veldtschoen constructed hand made derby very much comparable to the Dundee for around a third of the price. Aesthetically I do prefer the EG model, it has the edge over Cheaney but is that edge worth and additional £550? It's not as if Cheaney make poor quality shoes. Do you think the workers at EG have seen signifigant pay rises in the past 2 years – I highly doubt it. I really cannot understand what the directors strategy is here? Perhaps they really can't keep up with demand?post #28492 of 3023710/6/16 at 1:10ampost #28493 of 3023710/6/16 at 6:57amQuote:Quote:
Thanks guys! I find great satisfaction in originality and unique makeups, which is why I always incorporate lesser known or infrequently used colors in my MTO's.Quote:Originally Posted by chifromdachi
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You both look absolutely fantastic. I love the royal blue windowpane suit, the lapel width is perfect. Lovely shoes as well!post #28494 of 3023710/6/16 at 7:11amI'm in agreement with the US pricing being egregiously inflated. Other than Westley Richards, every Galway I can buy is $1500+ in calf when it was already an expensive boot a $1000. Considering that a full single MTO cordovan boot from C&J is $1150 shipped (cheaper in a group), it makes it really tough to justify at this point and their county derby boot (Radnor and Snowden) are pretty damn nice.
That said I'll be in Paris in a few months. That'll be differentpost #28495 of 3023710/6/16 at 7:33ampost #28496 of 3023710/6/16 at 7:41ampost #28497 of 3023710/6/16 at 8:12ampost #28498 of 3023710/6/16 at 9:31amEdward Green is expensive. They have been expensive since the firm started making and marketing shoes for their own label. And the regular price increases are anywhere from mildly irritating to adding insult to injury. For better or worse, because of where and how they are positioned in the market, EG really wants you to pay for quality--rightly or wrongly, price is being used as a proxy for quality in a sense.
EG's goods are popular, and they maintain relatively limited distribution. Moreover, MTO is an ever growing part of their business. This is a recipe for raising prices more often than some consumers might like for any reason, e.g. rising costs, unfavorable exchange rates, desire to increase margins/ profitability. My personal belief is that if Edward Green pursued a more aggressive form of price discrimination (like Hermes has done with its ties), you would see even more lower/stable prices in certain markets (U.S. and U.K.) and far higher prices in others (Asia).
I recognize that I am generalizing here, but there are some luxury markets, e.g. Japan, South Korea, Russia perhaps, where there is less resistance/sensitivity/ difficulty to very high prices, so long as the quality is there (and sometimes a cult/popular brand can be a substitute for quality on some level). The point here is that consumer behavior and its relation to price can vary between regional and national markets, even within same luxury market or product categories.
Lastly, and most controversially, discounting occurs on RTW stock--sometimes a lot, sometimes not at all. This means that just because EG and its retailers list a black Chelsea oxford for $1,220, it does not mean you should/ need to pay full price, or that the item is worth that price. Several retailers will discount their stock in private sales, seasonal sales, or inventory clearing sales at various times. If you are willing to wait and regular RTW style fit you, sometimes waiting for some type of discount or promotion is worth the risk.post #28499 of 3023710/6/16 at 10:12amThe majority of discounts I have seen are usually limited to more obscure models or materials. Even if say a black chelsea were to go on sale you would have to have a standard foot size. I am pretty much at my ceiling with EG and GG as well. Has GG raised their prices yet? Pretty soon calf boots will be 2k.post #28500 of 3023710/6/16 at 10:18am
From my view, EG has increased their prices (I thought price increase was a bit less than 5%) because its high demand all over the world is larger every year and the Brexit is starting to affect their costs. They are running full capacity and the Brexit it is a real issue for them (for any british importer). Should they want to keep their margins and to be on top of the english quality RTW rank they have no option. They just can do it. My believe is that someother english makers will follow soon. In the mean time I will continue to enjoy your new shoes.
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