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Originally Posted by FlyGuy View Post

Horweens Zug is respectable but not true to Heather Gorse / Zug as we know it and used on past models (eg: no Swiss chocolate byproduct leftovers added).

If I can find the samples of Horweens Zug, I'll post them here. Otherwise EG Paris has additional samples. Three colors were offered: black / oxblood / dark brown. I think ~2mm thickness.

Zug was the town in Switzerland where the leather was created and now, Zug is just the stamped pattern grain name btw originally known as "Martin's Grain" (no clue who Martin is/was).

There is some interesting history on the forum about the original leather (pg 427 on this thread)......aforementioned was from my memory.

Regardless of leather producer, should still make for a cool boot.

 

Please see this post:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/291745/edward-green-appreciation-pictures-info-and-where-to-buy/6390#post_6873307

 

It is called Martin's grain as it was made by W&J Martin's tannery. Note the names of the variety of leathers they made in that post. Please see a recipe for Zug leather also included with no mention of chocolate syrup. I would be interested to know if there is any real evidence supporting the use of chocolate syrup, I believe it may be a myth.

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Thanks Roger, and I shouldn't to keep up with your pairs. With the nice weather, ready to put the boots away. 

 

I can't stand to put the boots away anymore - I keep at least a couple pairs in rotation throughout the year.

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Is it spring yet? A quick cleaning of this duo. My first time using the Burgol Pomade, and it seems to put a nice gloss on the shoe with minimal work. 

 

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Looks really nice!  Is there a store that carries Burgol Pomade in the US that I could order from?

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Originally Posted by pandaologist View Post

Please see this post:
http://www.styleforum.net/t/291745/edward-green-appreciation-pictures-info-and-where-to-buy/6390#post_6873307

It is called Martin's grain as it was made by W&J Martin's tannery. Note the names of the variety of leathers they made in that post. Please see a recipe for Zug leather also included with no mention of chocolate syrup. I would be interested to know if there is any real evidence supporting the use of chocolate syrup, I believe it may be a myth.

Sort of like the rest of Zug smile.gif

I do find it strange how people treat Zug like a brand (ie Horween Shell Cordovan) but in reality there is no actual standard to which it's produced by any of the tanneries which supply it. It's really just a generic term for a leather of a certain style. But I think people still think it's a specific product?

It's a bit like not differentiating between any of the shell cordovan providers.
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Originally Posted by JR Magat View Post
 

Looks really nice!  Is there a store that carries Burgol Pomade in the US that I could order from?


Thanks. I picked up several jars of Pomade from Cultizm with free shipping to the US. I had another item, but I don't think there is a minimum. Not sure about stores here. 

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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post

Sort of like the rest of Zug smile.gif

I do find it strange how people treat Zug like a brand (ie Horween Shell Cordovan) but in reality there is no actual standard to which it's produced by any of the tanneries which supply it. It's really just a generic term for a leather of a certain style. But I think people still think it's a specific product?

It's a bit like not differentiating between any of the shell cordovan providers.

While I understand the point you make about Zug being a general umbrella term, keep in mind that in the Hlustik era and after, I think Edward Green used Ilcea Heather Gorse (Zug) supplied by A.A. Crack (and maybe others) exclusively. It is a specific version of Heather Gorse in this context; much like cordovan from Horween is a specific and high quality product from that tannery. This Ilcea Heather Gorse was available and used by several makers, and it was an incredibly thick and water resistant product. Martins Grain Zug and subsequent similar
products made by Ilcea and others are legendary because of the tannage and properties of the stuffed leather.

I want to hear more about Horween's version of Zug. It certainly has the same print as the vintage stuff. I'm also under the impression it's not a new product for Horween at all.
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For snow, I treat my boots with SnoSeal although I might try a different brand (forgot it's name) to change it up. The shoe care thread has lots of info.
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Most infamous & awesome leathere just ask dddrees biggrin.gif

Did someone say Zug? LOL

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Zug Zug Zug.

Horween Zug?
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Originally Posted by pandaologist View Post

I believe it may be a myth.
More like a joke that turned into an urban legend.
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Originally Posted by smoothie1 View Post

While I understand the point you make about Zug being a general umbrella term, keep in mind that in the Hlustik era and after, I think Edward Green used Ilcea Heather Gorse (Zug) supplied by A.A. Crack (and maybe others) exclusively. It is a specific version of Heather Gorse in this context; much like cordovan from Horween is a specific and high quality product from that tannery.
At the moment, A.A. Crack is a merchant that offers Horween leathers for sale.
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I'm pretty sure there was a Horween Zug GMTO with the C&J folks. Don't know if it materialized though.
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I'm pretty sure there was a Horween Zug GMTO with the C&J folks. Don't know if it materialized though.

It did, we should be receiving Snowdon boots in zug in a few weeks now.
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I'm pretty sure there was a Horween Zug GMTO with the C&J folks. Don't know if it materialized though.

From the pictures anyway the Zug used in this case looks to be awful close to the Zug used on our Galways a little while ago.

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Good Morning Gents,

 

Does anyone have any experience with Leffot's Dark Burgundy lower x berry suede shaft Galways? I'm currently talking with a gent who's looking to sell his but I'm concerned with his sizing remarks. He claims that this 82 lasted boot fits extremely large...in excess of 1 full US size larger than what's marked. This has not been my experience with the 82, but I've only tried it on once...I own a 64 lasted boot which I am quite happy with.

 

Any information/insight is appreciated.

 

Thank you,

 

Ref: http://leffot.com/edward-green-mto-a-la-suede/

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