Originally Posted by NORE
According to EG the 888, 82 & 202 are all basically the same save the toe shape.
Funny Ialways thought the 888/82 and the 202/606 were two separate families since the former were designed my Mr. Gaziano. However, when I received trees from recently purchased EGs, the ones that came with 82 is exactly the same as trees purchased for the 202 (also reps at EG at Jermyn St. say that their trees fit all the smart shoe lasts). I also tried out the 202 trees and they fit my 888/82 shoes fine (except obviously the trees do not fill up to the toe box). I can take pics if anyone cares.
So maybe the 888/82 and the 202/606 are more closely related than we think, at least in the vamp/waist area?
Originally Posted by gyasih
I can size down .5 in 888 from 82, and 202. The 202 is the more roomier of the three. I have all three lasts and have had various widths in each.
I stay pretty consistent with my 888, 82, and 33. Makes shopping easier.
Originally Posted by bespoken pa
So bals are usually tighter than blutchers? Is this across different manufactures as well? I thought perhaps the double sole on the Dover had something to do with it?
It provides a different feel. A balmoral definitely has less room for error because the vamp and eyestays are stitched together whereas a derby has more flexibility. Also, from my experience, some designed (i.e., cap toe ) makes the toebox feel tighter.