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post #346 of 773
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Originally Posted by WiredandTired View Post


Which shoe you looking at? Monk straps or lace ups?

Since you say you are on the wide side of a D, I wouldn't size down more than 1 full for UK size, but YMMV.

 

Balmoral captoe. 

post #347 of 773
I wear the same size in forest (shell blucher boot) and inca (shell monk strap) - UK8.

My C&J/JL size is UK8.5E. My EG size is UK9E.
post #348 of 773

I have searched this thread pretty thoroughly and not found a previous post relating to AE 3(333) last compared to Simpson.

 

I'm buying a pair of Carmina's for my best friend as a wedding gift.  The only pair of good shoes he has is on the Allen Edmonds 3(333) and they are US 8.5D.  He says they fit perfectly.  I am trying to determine if I should go full size or half size down on the Simpson.  He says he has fat, wide feet, but the 3(333) is one of the sleekest lasts AE makes (I think).

 

I may end up buying both UK 7.5 and UK 8 just to be safe and then return one, but any help would be great!

 

MM

post #349 of 773
How wide we talking?

Rain is more generous in width and is a soft square chisel. What size we taking about as well?
post #350 of 773
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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post

I have searched this thread pretty thoroughly and not found a previous post relating to AE 3(333) last compared to Simpson.

 

I'm buying a pair of Carmina's for my best friend as a wedding gift.  The only pair of good shoes he has is on the Allen Edmonds 3(333) and they are US 8.5D.  He says they fit perfectly.  I am trying to determine if I should go full size or half size down on the Simpson.  He says he has fat, wide feet, but the 3(333) is one of the sleekest lasts AE makes (I think).

 

I may end up buying both UK 7.5 and UK 8 just to be safe and then return one, but any help would be great!

 

MM

 

The 3 last is not narrow.  It is wider than the 5 last.  I do not own a pair on the 3 last, but all reports I've heard have confirmed this.

post #351 of 773
If he wears a D width in any AE last, he doesnt have wide and fat feet
post #352 of 773
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

The 3 last is not narrow.  It is wider than the 5 last.  I do not own a pair on the 3 last, but all reports I've heard have confirmed this.

 

There are two different 3 Lasts the 73 and 333.  The 73, which you are referring to is indeed one of the widest last they make.  The 333, however, appears to be narrower with squared toe box.

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/AllAboutLastsView?catalogId=40000000001&langId=-1&storeId=1

post #353 of 773
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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post

 

There are two different 3 Lasts the 73 and 333.  The 73, which you are referring to is indeed one of the widest last they make.  The 333, however, appears to be narrower with squared toe box.

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/AllAboutLastsView?catalogId=40000000001&langId=-1&storeId=1

 

Nope.  I'm talking about the 333.  Do a search in the AE thread and you will find the general consensus is that it fits wider than the 5 last.  AE's descriptions of its lasts cannot be relied upon.

post #354 of 773
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

 

Nope.  I'm talking about the 333.  Do a search in the AE thread and you will find the general consensus is that it fits wider than the 5 last.  AE's descriptions of its lasts cannot be relied upon.

 

Will do, thanks.

post #355 of 773
NewShoes1: AE's descriptions of its lasts cannot be relied upon.

True
post #356 of 773
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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post

 

Will do, thanks.

 

Still need some specifics here to help you out.  I am a solid E, maybe borderline double E depending on the last.  I've tried on the 3 Last in E width, but I need a EE to make the 5 last work.  Maybe even find out what width he takes on AE 5 Last, more data will get you a better guestimation of fit.

post #357 of 773
I am us 8EEE in AE
c&j between uk 7.5 to uk 8 . some lasts uk7.5 a bit tight around my small toe. And all my future c&j will be uk8 unless loafers.
carmina I have 2 pairs forest oxford uk8 and rain single monk uk8
I am glad I didn't go with uk7.5.

When I read some of you size down by 1 full size I really get surprised. Most of you must have narrow feet.
post #358 of 773
MRMSTL, I'm a 10C on a brannock device, and I wear an 8.5 UK Simpson last, if that helps.
post #359 of 773
First question: What last is this:

Second: Given that I wear the following comfortably, what size would you recommend?

- unknown square toe Grenson after widening in the ball area 9.5 uk
- Forest only as derby 10 UK (Oxford is too tight around the ball)
- Oscar 9.5 UK
- AS 48 in UK 9.5 is a bit tight on the smalles toe.
- unknown pointy but round Trickers in 9.5UK also a bit tight in the toe area

Thanks for your help, guys!
post #360 of 773

Is it safe to assume that if a 8UK fits me ok in the Forest last that I also would need a 8UK in the Rain last?

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