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post #31 of 250
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What was your biggest issue with bespoke?

I've had this experience as well, though moreso with getting shirts made. When you buy something off the rack, you've got a pretty damn good idea how its going to fit you, and how its going to look. When you go bespoke, you have to hope that what you've communicated to your tailor gets remembered beyond the measurements he's writing down in terms of shape, and that he nails every single detail you specify.

In general, with a good tailor and experience in communicating these things, this is not going to be a problem, but the forum is full of people who need to work with a tailor several times before they get the suit just perfect. for a lot of people, this is just too much risk and too much hassle when you can get something off the rack that's going to meet a lot of your requirements.
post #32 of 250
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Well, I like that story, but I wouldn't say I love it. Maybe I just don't know it well enough.

Take at look at T&L's house Lumb's GB sharkskin. Mina is making a suit for me from that right now.

Will get back to you about your note...thank you!
post #33 of 250
2 questions:
1) has everyone realized by now that mikedt lives in china
2) is this a another wight'esque sounding board masquerading as a naive question, again.
post #34 of 250
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

laugh.gif I agree with that.
I will note, however without claiming this is scientific or overly meaningful, that in TRINI's pinned "WAYWRN Hall of Fame" thread, out of the twelve guys in the OP, nine are entirely or nearly completely in bespoke clothes, one is largely in MTM, and two are largely in altered RTW. The bespoke group would be ten out of thirteen if someone hadn't insisted that all his photos be removed.
So, to get beyond a certain point, the tradition of bespoke tailoring seems to be useful.

Well, my previous post was meant as a defense of good bespoke, not an attack on it. I just think it's a shame when the great tailors are lumped in with all the bad/mediocre ones because, hey, it's bespoke. And bespoke is magical.

That said, I suspect that the bespoke guys in that thread would still be there if they were in RTW. Don't you think?
post #35 of 250
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1) has everyone realized by now that mikedt lives in china.

I feel that it is more romantic to note that he lives in Mongolia among the tiny horses.
post #36 of 250
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post

That said, I suspect that the bespoke guys in that thread would still be there if they were in RTW. Don't you think?

Interesting. Perhaps.

I'm trying to imagine Manton in RTW, and I just can't conjure that up.
post #37 of 250
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

Come on...try the right kind:
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Galette de champignons de Paris et foie gras mariné au verjus, huile de noisette, citron confit at l'Astrance.

while technically liver, I think this does not capture the spirit of the statement....
post #38 of 250
Looks good, boss!

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Come on...try the right kind:
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Galette de champignons de Paris et foie gras mariné au verjus, huile de noisette, citron confit at l'Astrance.
post #39 of 250
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

Interesting. Perhaps.
I'm trying to imagine Manton in RTW, and I just can't conjure that up.

I can. Because I suspect he and I and you -- and the guys in that thread in general -- share certain tastes that go beyond where we source our clothes. And make us more likely to complain about some of the recent directions of the forum.

No offense to anyone who finds himself lumped in my company. laugh.gif
post #40 of 250
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Well, my previous post was meant as a defense of good bespoke, not an attack on it. I just think it's a shame when the great tailors are lumped in with all the bad/mediocre ones because, hey, it's bespoke. And bespoke is magical.

It's not a process that will garner magical results. It's about the great potential that can be realized by engaging in the process. Possibilities and garments that cannot be created in another way.

If you had a venn diagram it would be; Cloth, cut and construction / client / tailor. All three elements in equal parts.
post #41 of 250
I remember a few Brioni suits that Voxy posted a few years ago. Absolutely stunning.
post #42 of 250
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post

It's not a process that will garner magical results. It's about the great potential that can be realized by engaging in the process. Possibilities and garments that cannot be created in another way.

That's what I meant when I offered the HOF group as a sample, but you said it much better.
post #43 of 250
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Originally Posted by Young Gentleman View Post

Can anyone explain this to me? Why do some people buy Kiton or Brioni suits when they could have one, maybe two bespoke suits made for the same price at one of the world's best tailors?

 

Same question for shirts, why would people spend €300 on a Brioni or a Charvet shirt when they can go to Turnbull & Asser or another shirtmaker and have a bespoke shirt made to their specifications?

 

It just doesn't make sense to me, but perhaps someone can enlighten me? A bespoke suit or shirt will certainly fit better and last longer than any RTW garment.


why do you care?  and why should people all behave like igents?  have you not seen enough horrid bespoke examples in the current WAYWT thread?

 

post #44 of 250
Look, some people don't care about money, and their time is more important than eating margarita pizza in Naples with old guys who make clothes. They want to be in and out of Bergdorf and look great for their dinner that night, not two years from then.
post #45 of 250
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post

I can. Because I suspect he and I and you -- and the guys in that thread in general -- share certain tastes that go beyond where we source our clothes. And make us more likely to complain about some of the recent directions of the forum.
No offense to anyone who finds himself lumped in my company. laugh.gif

If you are saying we would be equally insane in custom or RTW, that is probably right.
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