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post #31 of 85
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@Jesse: icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

same damn 'lo sweater, times is tough, and rough - like leather. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #32 of 85
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same damn 'lo sweater, times is tough, and rough - like leather. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

Always wondered what that meant. Thanks for making that connection for me.
post #33 of 85
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same damn 'lo sweater, times is tough, and rough - like leather. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

I'm still looking for the teddy bear wearing the RLPL suit sweater icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #34 of 85
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Always wondered what that meant. Thanks for making that connection for me.

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post #35 of 85
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys.

We had a segment about the Polo Bear that almost made the cut, but we dropped it in the final edit.
post #36 of 85
Thread Starter 

If anyone's hearing impaired, we added captions to the YouTube version of the video.
post #37 of 85
been had polo
post #38 of 85
but seriously, great tip on folding jackets. best one ive seen to date. same with the pants. thanks!
post #39 of 85
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Thanks guys.
We had a segment about the Polo Bear that almost made the cut, but we dropped it in the final edit.

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post #40 of 85
Thread Starter 
Here's something I wrote on the site today, in part to reply to the folks who've been asking me why we covered the Lo Heads in our first episode, when they're so far outside of our usual aesthetic.

Learn to Speak the Language:

Why the ‘Lo Heads are Masters of Sartorial Discourse

Would I wear a sweater with a picture of a teddy bear wearing Polo business clothes? Or a Polo Golf tie with an illustration of a golfer on it? Or a black leather Polo suit? No way. A jacket that says “SNOW BEACH” on it? Absolutely not.

So why did we feature ‘Lo Heads in our first episode? Wearing clothes that I wouldn’t wear myself, in ways I wouldn’t wear them?

Dressing is a fundamentally discursive act. The most sophisticated dressers are engaged in a three-way conversation - between the creator of their clothing, themselves, and the people they interact with while dressed. This happens in the context of a broad set of only semi-shared cultural values. The designer intends one meaning, the wearer recombines it, recontextualizes it, and gives it new meaning, and then that meaning is interpreted by the people the wearer interacts with in ways that the wearer could never have conceived.

I think that these guys, deeply immersed in this ‘Lo Heads culture, are incredibly fluent at this discourse. They’re living it. Any of us, no matter what our personal sense of aesthetics, or our personal goals for can learn from their example.

So let’s break it down a little.

The first level: there’s an interesting statement made, of course, when a black or Puerto Rican guy from the hood wears clothes that are self-consciously associated with activities (yachting, skiing, golf) that have powerful ties to whiteness and richness. The guy from the hood is subverting those values. His act is a thumb in the eye to the rich (and white) that says that not only can those symbols of privilege be appropriated by the downtrodden, the downtrodden can rock that shit better.

Dallas describes the Polo-obsessed culture as a function of “Aspirational Apparel.” I think that’s part of it. When you’re “sick and tired of being sick and tired,” as one guy put it, you want to represent something for yourself that’s more than that. But here’s the limitation of that description: this is not a literal act. These are not poor people striving to be as much like rich people as possible. This is a symbolic act.

We asked person after person, “would you get on a yacht?” “Have you ever been skiing?” “Do you like golf?” and to a man, the answer was a laughing “HELL no.”

In other words: these folks don’t aspire to be the rich. They aspire to success, sure, like any of us, but they aren’t supplicating themselves before upper-class white culture, asking to be let in. They don’t aspire to join the club. They aspire to take the symbols of privilege and give them new meaning. To rock them better.

In fact, if the clothes are worn in new ways - think of Dallas’ tie-outside-sweater look - all the better. Like hip-hop slang, the goal is to create an insider’s argot, a way of recombining these symbols of privilege into something with one meaning for people who “get it” and one meaning for people who don’t. Alienating the outsiders is part of creating an insider culture.

There’s also something fascinating to me about the specific preferences that Polo collectors demonstrate. I was wearing a corduroy Polo blazer the night we recorded at Lo Goose on the Deuce (“all eras, all styles welcome,” it said on the invite). Needless to say, there weren’t a lot of other guys there rocking corduroy blazers - despite the fact that corduroy has a rich sporting heritage.

Polo collectors like stuff with graphic and textual representations of the abstract class ideas they’re pursuing. Abstractions of abstractions. Ties with pictures of golfers. Jackets with pictures of skiiers. The Polo Bear.

The Polo Bear is the perfect collectible for Lo Heads. He’s a brand icon who appears mostly on annually-released sweaters. A teddy bear who wears Polo clothes. That makes the Polo Bear sweater a representation of a representation of class, through an icon (a teddy bear) that’s completely non-human, for maximum abstraction.

The reason the Polo fans love Ralph Lauren is that while he has always admired the aesthetics of English schools and Great-Gatsby Americana, he himself was a poor, Jewish New York kid. His name and brand were made up from whole cloth. His creations are fundamentally (and shamelessly) inauthentic. Their value is in how perfectly they celebrate an idea of Americanness that is both tied to race and class and somehow self-consciously cut off from it. The premise of his work is that he’s going to grab the symbols and aesthetics and rock them better.

I don’t want to get too semiotic on you, but our clothes have very limited inherent values. Warm/not-warm and keeps the sun off are pretty much it. Maybe some portion of our aesthetic values are in-born, that’s an argument for a different day. Everything else about getting dressed is symbolic. You’re participating in a conversation. Learn to speak the language.
post #41 of 85
And consider what you might be inadvertently communicating at times.
post #42 of 85
I really like the series, but that molester mustache has got to go. You're looking like Billy Corgan's creepy uncle. I feel bad-touched just watching it.
post #43 of 85
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Originally Posted by YoungAmerican View Post

We paid for this little video out of our own pockets, with our friend comedian/author/This American Life contributor Dave Hill at the Ralph Lauren show at NYC fashion week:Probably not representative of the tone of the rest of the series, but we always have fun doing stuff with Dave, who's one of the funniest guys around.

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So, so hilarious. This is the funniest video I've ever seen linked through SF by a wide margin.
post #44 of 85
Thanks Jesse, you just reminded me to look for my sweater.
post #45 of 85
I think the snippets with Dave Hill and Boyer are much better than the "real" first episode; the problem is that it is just too superficial.
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