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post #16 of 42
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Those look very comfortable. I'm not sure why more shoes aren't built narrow in the heel and waist, with a roomy toe box.

Different strokes...one fits the foot (bespoke), the other (RTW) fits the fantasy.

One of the most common foot configurations that a bespoke maker sees is the narrow heel/wide forefoot.

That said, two observations--the angle of the photo distorts the relationship of the forepart to the waist; and boots such as these Traditionally have narrow waists.
post #17 of 42
Still making the best Wellington's I've ever seen, I see. Outstanding. Love your binding work.
post #18 of 42
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Still making the best Wellington's I've ever seen, I see. Outstanding. Love your binding work.

Thank you...that means a lot coming from you.
post #19 of 42
Awesome boots, DW.
post #20 of 42
good to see more wood pegged around...
post #21 of 42
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Awesome boots, DW.

Thank you!
post #22 of 42
Those are gorgeous. The pegging is beautiful in and of itself.
post #23 of 42
I wouldn't have thought you'd do pegging...
post #24 of 42
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I wouldn't have thought you'd do pegging...

Why not?

The full wellington predates the American Frontier...they were made popular by Arthur Wellsley, the Duke of Wellington, in the wake of his victories over Napoleon Bonaparte. During the early to late 1800's they were the man's boot in both Europe and in the US. And they were really the first cowboy boots, as well...coming west with military officers after the American Civil War...and a staple for the boot Trade until the early 1900's (Hyer Boot company was still offering them as late as 1930, if I recall correctly).

During and after the Late Unpleasantness, the US Quartermaster Corp actually did extensive experiments to determine the best method of construction for military issue and one of the methods they looked at was pegs. When the Army moved west civilian makers took up the slack...making bespoke boots for active and retired soldiers as well as itinerant "cowboys" (often retrired or mustered-out cavalry men). And most rtw boots of that era, many made in San Fransisco, were full pegged.

Western (cowboy) boots, as we know them today, still retain pegging through the waist and heel as the Traditional method of attaching the outsole to the boot...although the forepart is stitched. I've spent near onto 40 years pegging boots.
post #25 of 42
I thought it was you, though I could easily be mistaken, that said they do damage to the sole and each time you do a resole, it gets worse.
post #26 of 42
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Well, yes I did say that. And it is true enough. Told the customer that as well. But that's the essence of bespoke--if the customer wants it and is willing to accept the shortcomings--then I do it.

It's also historically correct for a certain time period and style.
post #27 of 42
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Well, yes I did say that. And it is true enough. Told the customer that as well. But that's the essence of bespoke--if the customer wants it and is willing to accept the shortcomings--then I do it.
It's also historically correct for a certain time period and style.

it's only twenty years and forty pairs over this timespan. two years being the latest. no shortcomings???

would you care to share??? many thanks.
post #28 of 42
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467

I believe those are the very boots worn by Simón Bolívar when he proclaimed himself dictator of Gran Colombia. Good score!
post #29 of 42
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it's only twenty years and forty pairs over this timespan. two years being the latest. no shortcomings???
would you care to share??? many thanks.

I don't know what you're asking or saying...?? I would be glad to share if I knew what the reference to "20 years and forty pairs" is about.

As for shortcomings...yes, pegging has its shortcomings including, as I have said, a stiffening of the outsole and a shortened lifespan...despite (or maybe as a result of) resoling...in daily use.
post #30 of 42
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I don't know what you're asking or saying...?? I would be glad to share if I knew what the reference to "20 years and forty pairs" is about.
As for shortcomings...yes, pegging has its shortcomings including, as I have said, a stiffening of the outsole and a shortened lifespan...despite (or maybe as a result of) resoling...in daily use.

i haven't encountered the shortcomings you mentioned in twenty years and forty pairs of shoes. so, i'm surprised about your assessment. that's all.
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