Samuelsohn MTM

Legal Eagle · Apr 12, 2012

Good to know on the soft shoulders. Wonder how they compare to the PRL Blue Label soft shoulders. I will check out the trunk show tonight. My primary concerns are that: a) I don't know how much this one-off creation will cost and b) I don't know how well it will be executed. I have to believe that, at some point, Sammy has done this vest before. It isn't as though I am asking for something that is completely unheard of. Also Greenfield and PRL offer it is as a stock option. I do want to insist on getting a MTM with a DB, peak vest because it is for my wedding and truly want something special.

New Shoes1 · Apr 12, 2012

I have a Samuelsohn Gable and that model has a very natural shoulder. My favorite suit.

Legal Eagle · Apr 12, 2012

Gable, I will check that one out then. I take it most people just order what is shown in the sketch books then.

New Shoes1 · Apr 12, 2012

Legal Eagle said:
Gable, I will check that one out then. I take it most people just order what is shown in the sketch books then.

Mine is not MTM, but it's a great cut for my build. Natural shoulders, athletic/slim cut.

Legal Eagle · Apr 12, 2012

Well, just got back from the trunk show. Ended up plunking down a deposit. Dorian was the Sammy rep that measured me. Boy, was he knowledgeable! Adjusting for longer left arm, arms set back from shoulders, 43 inch chest on a 42 body jacket, 37 inch pants on a 36 inch waist band to allow more room in the seat and hips, etc. Ended up going with a deep charcoal, faint herringbone 120s, 8 3/4 oz "A" fabric from Barberis. Seemed pretty nice and should have an excellent drape. Went with the Gable jacket, working buttonholes, horn buttons, eggplant small paisley liner (coordinates with bridesmaid dresses), and eggplant and cream striped sleeve lining. I think the pants were an L7?, slightly slimmer, double forward pleat with D rings.

They said they can in fact do a double breasted peak lapel vest w/ 4 welt pockets, as they have a customer that orders it all the time. They will get me a photo and sketch by Monday before putting the order through, just to make sure I am 100 percent happy with the vest style.

I left feeling pretty confident. It may not have the handwork of Martin Greenfield, but it was a fair amount less in cost.

Now just need to work on a MTM white collar pin dress shirt, some braces, and my tie. Already plan on wearing the AE Fifth Street bal boots that I picked up a month back.

New Shoes1 · Apr 12, 2012

Legal Eagle said:
Well, just got back from the trunk show. Ended up plunking down a deposit. Dorian was the Sammy rep that measured me. Boy, was he knowledgeable! Adjusting for longer left arm, arms set back from shoulders, 43 inch chest on a 42 body jacket, 37 inch pants on a 36 inch waist band to allow more room in the seat and hips, etc. Ended up going with a deep charcoal, faint herringbone 120s, 8 3/4 oz "A" fabric from Barberis. Seemed pretty nice and should have an excellent drape. Went with the Gable jacket, working buttonholes, horn buttons, eggplant small paisley liner (coordinates with bridesmaid dresses), and eggplant and cream striped sleeve lining. I think the pants were an L7?, slightly slimmer, double forward pleat with D rings.

They said they can in fact do a double breasted peak lapel vest w/ 4 welt pockets, as they have a customer that orders it all the time. They will get me a photo and sketch by Monday before putting the order through, just to make sure I am 100 percent happy with the vest style.

I left feeling pretty confident. It may not have the handwork of Martin Greenfield, but it was a fair amount less in cost.

Now just need to work on a MTM white collar pin dress shirt, some braces, and my tie. Already plan on wearing the AE Fifth Street bal boots that I picked up a month back.

Congrats! Post pictures when you get the finished suit back. I may do Sammy MTM in the near future.

Legal Eagle · Apr 12, 2012

Thanks. I hope I was not compromising much on quality by going this route. I haven;t really heard any bad things on Samuelsohn.

New Shoes1 · Apr 13, 2012

Legal Eagle said:
Thanks. I hope I was not compromising much on quality by going this route. I haven;t really heard any bad things on Samuelsohn.

there is an older thread comparing Samuelsohn's quality with Brioni. You should read it.

Legal Eagle · Apr 14, 2012

Just read that, thanks. Feeling assure on the quality, at least for the price. However, my OCD is setting in and I'm kind of doubting myself on the Barberis dark charcoal mini herringbone fabric that I chose. It was between that and a slightly lighter shark skin charcoal. The herringbone is hard to see in many lights, but I am worried it is going to look striped. I wanted a nice solid that will look great and not trendy and was a little worried on having too much sheen with shark skin. Something nice for my wedding and yet, serviceable down the road, even without the vest. I already have a plain, solid charcoal two piece. You guys think a mini herringbone is a good choice?

vandave · Apr 14, 2012

Legal Eagle said:
Just read that, thanks. Feeling assure on the quality, at least for the price. However, my OCD is setting in and I'm kind of doubting myself on the Barberis dark charcoal mini herringbone fabric that I chose. It was between that and a slightly lighter shark skin charcoal. The herringbone is hard to see in many lights, but I am worried it is going to look striped. I wanted a nice solid that will look great and not trendy and was a little worried on having too much sheen with shark skin. Something nice for my wedding and yet, serviceable down the road, even without the vest. I already have a plain, solid charcoal two piece. You guys think a mini herringbone is a good choice?

I got a grey sharskin in medium grey M2M from Samuelsohn. Sounds like the same fabric. Was it in the B category? I personally love it and it turned out better than I thought. It's hard to take such a small sample and imagine the whole suit.

Legal Eagle · Apr 14, 2012

Yes, the shark skin was in the b fabric, Super 110s. Would you be wiling to share a pic of your suit? The herringbone was an A fabric, super 120s. Both Barberis, I believe. The increase in price aside, I decided on the herringbone because it was a little darker. Based upon the swatch, the herringbone looked pretty hard to see. I would say it was similar to the BB suit on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BROOKS-BROT...823293?pt=US_CSA_MC_Suits&hash=item19cfa4243d

That seems like it would make an interesting 3 piece Peak Lapel suit, no?

vandave · Apr 14, 2012

Here's a couple. Let me know if you want anything specific.

Legal Eagle · Apr 15, 2012

Very Nice! Looks quite a bit lighter than mine, but it looks like a great fabric. Funny, I ended up ordering the same liner, unless there are two purple paisley options. I had thought my liner was a deep eggplant, closer to wine, but maybe not.

Are you pretty happy with yours? How did the fit come out? I was planning on doing the second round of tailoring and alterations just before my wedding. As long as it was pretty close now, I will just leave be.

vandave · Apr 15, 2012

Legal Eagle said:
Very Nice! Looks quite a bit lighter than mine, but it looks like a great fabric. Funny, I ended up ordering the same liner, unless there are two purple paisley options. I had thought my liner was a deep eggplant, closer to wine, but maybe not.

Are you pretty happy with yours? How did the fit come out? I was planning on doing the second round of tailoring and alterations just before my wedding. As long as it was pretty close now, I will just leave be.

When I looked at the sample fabric, it struck me as being darker than what the suit turned out to look like when complete. But, that's exactly what I wanted because I was looking for a medium grey.

I am very happy with the M2M. The jacket fit perfectly without any tailoring needed. All they had to do was add the buttons and do up the surgeon cuffs. The pants were perfect as well and just had to be hemmed.

After doing the M2M, I don't think I will ever go back.

jrd617 · Apr 15, 2012

New Shoes1 said:
I have a Samuelsohn Gable and that model has a very natural shoulder. My favorite suit.

+1. I now own a bunch of Gable suits and SC's, and plan on getting more. Poor man's Isaia. :slayer:

The soft shoulders are great on Gable jackets:

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