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post #16 of 26
I'm a big fan of buying new, high-quality shoes; I won't be giving you that advice. Your most critical issue is that your clothes no longer fit due to weight loss. Since you're nearly 30, and are employed, I'll assume you already have some type of dress shoe(s) and they still fit. If so, you can hold off on purchasing new dress shoes. Why? Your shoes fit and your clothes don't. To me (and I think most others here) fit trumps all else. Those items that can be tailored ought to be, but keep in the mind the cost-benefit and prepare to dump if you can buy new (or even used), proper fitting clothes at a lower price.

Inventory what is salvageable and post pictures. Note: if your current shoes are truly dreadful I may revise the recommendation.
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by usctrojans31 View Post

Sneakers - I hope that this is just for running and athletic training.

OMG, the HORROR, I've worn sneakers with a pair of jeans before...

god damn I'm lucky i wasn't immediately shot.

give it a rest, on some occasions, sneakers are fine casual attire
post #18 of 26

lurking and just wanted to say also appreciate all of the advice in this thread.  New to SF and it's sort of overwhelming... is there a subforum or an ongoing thread for the budget-conscious non-ballers on SF?  Something akin to what is offered on dappered.com but crowd-sourced by SF users?

 

Thrift route seems a little too intense for me and I think I saw a sales watch thread seemed to mostly point to sales on crazy expensive stuff/stores.

post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post

OMG, the HORROR, I've worn sneakers with a pair of jeans before...
god damn I'm lucky i wasn't immediately shot.
give it a rest, on some occasions, sneakers are fine casual attire

Running shoes aren't. If you must wear sneakers, something canvas like chucks. White running shoes look awful no matter how well made or what they're worn with.

As for what you need to prioritize, that depends. What do you wear the most? If you're in suits for work often, dress attire would be the number one thing. If your workplace is fairly casual, get a couple pairs of khakis that fit well, and a penny loafer (recommended anyway, since it can range from anywhere short of a suit to wear with jeans and a polo).

Basically, without knowing your lifestyle or exactly what you have, we can't make a good judgement on specifics.

I will, however, say this: make sure you have what you need, even if it's not the quality you want. If you need to wear suits on a daily basis, three is probably the minimum. If you can't afford nice brands, go to Jos a Bank on a sale, and buy three for $500. If you buy the right size and have them tailored, they'll look pretty good, and you can buy better stuff as you have the money. Have some nicer shoes, but keep the crap ones in the rotation until you can phase them out.


There's an (almost certainly apocryphal) story about William Penn that may have some relevance here. Penn, a converted quaker, was speaking to George Fox (the founder of the religion) about the sword he carried as part of his dress as a gentleman. He asked how he was to reconcile this with his faith, and the belief in peace it demanded. Fox's response was simple: "Wear it as long as thou canst".

The same applies here. Replace your most desperate needs now, and wear the crap as long as you can. When you can't bear it any longer, things take care of themselves.
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

Running shoes aren't. If you must wear sneakers, something canvas like chucks.
I disagree on the chucks. I'm no sneaker fan, but I think they look juvenile. And borderline creepy on adults.
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

Running shoes aren't. If you must wear sneakers, something canvas like chucks. White running shoes look awful no matter how well made or what they're worn with.

I have grey new balances but have in days past worn white running shoes with jeans.

you can dislike, I'll continue to do so. we'll agree to disagree here.
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by PiCcolocV View Post


The backstory: Approximately 2 months ago I made the decision to educate myself on style as my next life project, which I take pretty seriously (involving months of research, organized binders, commitment in time and money, etc.) I have definitely made some strong initial strides given how completely unaware I was previously, and concentrated most of my early efforts on altering/tailoring a lot of the clothing I already owned to actually fit me correctly, and researching without necessarily buying a lot of what I want my eventual “look” to be. About to hit my 30s, I have settled on a dressier look exemplified on the StyleForum WAYWRN thread – dressier shoes, blazers, shirts, pocket squares, etc. – obviously it will take years to get to this point, but I am willing to put in the effort.
 
The issue I am currently facing is given my budget on my wardrobe for the year and the significant upgrades that are basically required across the board, how to prioritize what to purchase. I am hoping some feedback here might help narrow my focus. I have a list of “wants” and tried to trim it down to what I would consider “needs” based on simply not having these items represented in my wardrobe:
 
* Pair of black dress shoes
* Pair of brown dress shoes
* 2 Dress shirts
* Pair of jeans
* 1 Suit
* 1 Blazer
* Pair of sneakers
* Pair of casual dress shoes 
 
I am doing my due diligence with trying to be as economical as possible – regularly visit thrift stores, scour ebay/craigslist, and check the styleforum for sale sections, follow dappered.com for clearance items, hold out for the rare super-sale, etc. My budget for this year is ~$1,100. There are a couple reasons it is tough for me to prioritize these items.
 
I am trying to value quality that will last my years over quantity that I will need to replace in a year. A great example is the shoes – I was one of those guys that thought the bottom-barrel leather square toe slip on shoes from Marshall’s constituted legitimate dress shoes to pair with a suit. One of my first new purchases after starting this endeavor was to go out and get a pair of decent leather brown oxfords that matched most of my dress attire from DSW, but being my only pair of dressy shoes I feel comfortable with over these last couple months these things are not surprisingly starting to feel the wear of being worn almost every single day without rest day after day. 
 
From talking with some shoe salesmen at higher-end stores and reading online, the more higher quality dress shoe absolutely makes a huge difference in terms of comfort and longevity, but even $500-600 shoes (that I can grab on ebay for about $250) can’t be worn every day – I need a minimum of 2 to alternate, ideally 4 at some point to truly keep them fresh. 
 
A similar situation with my suits – in retrospect, part of me wants to wage war on MWH for putting no effort back when I bought all of my last round of suits into educating me on how to determine what I should wear – I have 2 suits, one that is very serviceable, one that is acceptable, and the rest of my closet is full of either super-padded shoulders, shoulders that are too big for me, pleated pants, etc. Again, with a suit quality definitely matters in terms of longevity – I don’t need to drop $1k on a suit, but there are plenty of suits around that price range going for $300-400 if you search long enough. My work will entail me being at conferences/trade shows that last 3-4 days in a row where + regular use for work and I am concerned of both repetitiveness and burn out of the two I currently own.  
 
Between these 2 shoes and 1 suit alone, even being relatively frugal, that is basically half my budget right there. That doesn’t even address more casual wear – I currently have only 1 pair of jeans that actually fit me (formerly too big at the waist boot-cuts now collect dust in my closet), my previous casual shoe was a dreaded generic gray New Balance, and I am in pretty desperate need of dress shirts that fit properly and aren’t worn down.      
 
To top it all off, much of the stuff I am looking at will also require tailoring (suits, blazer, dress shirts). I finally got off my ass last year and dropped around 20+ pounds off my frame – hence why basically all my clothes needed to be tailored, and forced some stuff that couldn’t be to become obsolete (jeans, some jackets, dress shirts).  This will only further cut into my budget.
 
So all this being said, how should I look to prioritize my spending? I am not even including the accessories that I need to acquire at some point down the road, pocket squares, ties, coats, another watch, etc.
 
**TL;DR – between learning how to not dress like an idiot and losing 20 lbs., need to start overhauling both work and casual wardrobe with $1,100 budget for the year – need help prioritizing spending. **

If I were you, don't buy new clothes, just save up, work harder, and keep wearing what you have

If you need to budget your spending in such precision at 30, I am afraid you have more stuff to worry about than clothes

Wrong choice coming to SF
post #23 of 26
Edited for briefness:
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Originally Posted by PiCcolocV View Post

I am looking to update my wardrobe to SF standards.

I need to prioritize and would like to purchase:
 
* Pair of black dress shoes
* Pair of brown dress shoes
* 2 Dress shirts
* Pair of jeans
* 1 Suit
* 1 Blazer
* Pair of sneakers
* Pair of casual dress shoes 
 
I am looking to save money. My budget for this year is ~$1,100.

I am trying to get quality over quantity .
 
My work will entail me being at conferences/trade shows that last 3-4 days in a row where + regular use for work and I am concerned of both repetitiveness and burn out of the two I currently own.  
 
I also want more casual wear –

I recently lost 20lbs and need to tailor some clothes I already have.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

Running shoes aren't. If you must wear sneakers, something canvas like chucks. White running shoes look awful no matter how well made or what they're worn with.
+1
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There's an (almost certainly apocryphal) story about William Penn that may have some relevance here. Penn, a converted quaker, was speaking to George Fox (the founder of the religion) about the sword he carried as part of his dress as a gentleman. He asked how he was to reconcile this with his faith, and the belief in peace it demanded. Fox's response was simple: "Wear it as long as thou canst".
The same applies here. Replace your most desperate needs now, and wear the crap as long as you can. When you can't bear it any longer, things take care of themselves.

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post #25 of 26

You reach a certain age where wearing chucks is inappropriate.

post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by mjjo View Post

You reach a certain age where wearing chucks is inappropriate.



 Somewhere around the age of 14, right?

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