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post #31 of 135
Okay, it's been a long day, so I'm going to have the last word here. Anymore insulting one another over such an asinine point is going to get someone a week in the can. I don't care who is right and who is wrong.

I don't know why Black Platano would dismiss Ande's jeans, seeing that he has no firsthand knowledge of them, nor do I see why Cheap would say that they are a better deal than APCs, since, to my knowledge, Cheap doesn't own nor has ever worn in a pair of APCs. Only someone like Drizzt, who owns both pairs of Ande Whalls and APCs, is at all qualified to really judge. Normally, I would say that someone who has carefully inspected both, but in this case, I'd have to say own at least the Ande Whall's, since they are custom made and do not have any retail distribution, AFAIK.

APC jeans are generally accepted to be a very good entry level jean. The denim is extremely durable, the designs are quite classic, and the construction and trims are good. That being said, there are other jeans that are far superior to them in any or all of these aspects, but they are generally considerably more expensive.

I have no experience with Ande Whall's jeans, so I can't comment on either the fit, the materials, or the construction. There are a number of models, and members with very different body types have been happy with the fit of different models, so I expect that the fit would be quite reasonable. I cannot comment on either the construction nor the denim or trims used. I personally want to buy a pair of Ande's jeans. My only reservation is the denim quality. "Very dark" and 14.5 ounces says very little to me. I know that Ande has posted elsewhere that he has a regular supplier now, but I would really like to feel a swatch of the denim before ordering a pair. Pictures are nice, but things like tightness of the weave or quality of the yarn is, imo, impossible to convey over pictures on the internet.
post #32 of 135
I wouldn't say i dismiss them. I even suggested SuFu did a ande contest a while back. But, Im not convinced that they are worth $40 more than APCs. That's all.
post #33 of 135
i really liked the transient denim he had, the real streaky one diamonds has on SF.
post #34 of 135
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Originally Posted by poly800rock
i really liked the transient denim he had, the real streaky one diamonds has on SF.

+1. Those look amazing.
post #35 of 135
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Originally Posted by evilgeniusdan
+1. Those look amazing.
+1.
post #36 of 135
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Originally Posted by evilgeniusdan
+1. Those look amazing.

The fabric looks very similar to a Japanese quality I have from Kuroki.

Now that I can't get a OG pair of Samurais I might give Ande's jeans a shot.
post #37 of 135
all I can say is that a rivet fell THE FUCK OFF my coin pocket on the NS..
post #38 of 135
Ok, so here goes:

I own two pairs of APC Rescues and one pair of APC New Standards and have had them for about six months. I also own a pair of AW Cougars. IMHO you can't compare these two pairs of jeans. The APC jeans are certainly nice, the rescues are one of my favorite pairs of jeans for a nice comfy fit, but they aren't as nice as the AWs. The quality of the denim is not nearly as good in my opinion.

The APCs have tightly woven denim that is a nice color and produces nice fades, but it's not as nice to my touch as the AW denim. AW jeans also have much more detailing. such as contrast stitching and the attention to detail like triple stitching on the hem and lack of any random loose strings or imperfections in the denim because they are hand made and not factory made with low quality control.

Also, in terms of hardware, AW's choices are top notch, while APCs are certainly not terrible, but not really anything to write home about. They certainly don't have the solidity and obvious quality of something like 5EP, while AW jeans are roughly comparable with 5EP IMO.

Finally, there's the more important issue of fit, and while APC jeans are certainly not terrible in that regard, certainly for me, the AW Cougar has a much better fit than the APC equivalent (Rescue) Others will have to comment on the relative fit of the Grifter to the New Standard as I don't own a pair.

Personally I think AW jeans are a better value than APC even at Peasant's price of $98 shipped. That's just my $0.02.
post #39 of 135
Peasant's selling APC cheaper than denimbar?
post #40 of 135
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Originally Posted by whodini
Peasant's selling APC cheaper than denimbar?

It's some sort of sale. I bought a pair for $98 a few weeks ago.
post #41 of 135
Hmm...can't find it on the site. Guess it's not going on anymore.
post #42 of 135
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Originally Posted by whodini
Hmm...can't find it on the site. Guess it's not going on anymore.

The site isn't loading for me but they had one pair in 32 or 33 yesterday (rescues)
post #43 of 135
Gone... Oh well.
post #44 of 135
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Originally Posted by blackplatano
Last time i checked, tasting, smelling or hearing denim wasn't useful.

Last time I checked Tasting (I have extremely good tastebuds and can taste the difference between good quality natural Indigo and shit) and hearing (super strength hearing too, I can hear the difference in construction) denim is what usually determines what my next purchase will be.
Smelling on the other hand...
post #45 of 135
Ande Whalls look nice, but the back patch is too large for my liking. I prefer small rectangular or nothing at all, and he stated he doesn't offer not having them as a custom option (even though he has to cut the fabric by hand, so I find that strange), and 32 inseam is too long for me, I'd end up having to get a 34 or 36 and get them hemmed. I don't see why he can't go the extra step with them. No patch and shorter inseam should be easy to do.
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