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post #46 of 83
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post

Bad places for crime - London, Glasgow, Manchester, Liverpool, Nottingham, Birmingham, Swansea. Obviously big cities have more crime than others, The further North you go the friendlier people are, and London is the worst for rudeness.

I don't where you live, but if you think London is bad when it comes to rudeness and crime , you shouldn't go to most of mainland Europe.
post #47 of 83
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

I don't where you live, but if you think London is bad when it comes to rudeness and crime , you shouldn't go to most of mainland Europe.

Everywhere you go , you will find lovely and horrible people..

Real Londoners , if you meet one , are actually not that welcoming because of the perceived loss of identity they suffer since the newcomers arrival..

On average , people living in London are quite friendly..

i do find Romans very rude because even if you speak to them in Italian they were rude but i do not know enough of them enough to making a sweeping statement about them..

It is also cultural differences..

Where I come from ,we will observe you and decide to become friends with you and when you're accpeted , you're one of us..
post #48 of 83
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

I don't where you live, but if you think London is bad when it comes to rudeness and crime , you shouldn't go to most of mainland Europe.

IMO only Paris can compete with London for rudeness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London#Metropolitan_force_comparisons
post #49 of 83
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post

IMO only Paris can compete with London for rudeness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London#Metropolitan_force_comparisons

laugh.gif I agree. I'm a Londoner born and bred but I can't stand working there. And Paris is worse...

I've lived in Manchester city centre for twenty years, in the (now trendy) Northern Quarter.
It's OK, a few idiots about like you get anywhere, but in general the transport is good (trains trams and buses) and if you were looking to get work at media city (actually in Salford) it's a piece of piss. Literally ten minutes on the tram. Got a couple of mates who work there , one for the BBC and the other is part of the team handling ITV's move there. Plenty of music venues and PA/lighting companies etc. if your engineering experience is non broadcast orientated.

Worked in all the other places mentioned in the thread so far but never lived in any of them.

All have pluses and minuses. I would go where the work is and then choose somewhere to live after that. Suburbs tend to be very similar all over the place if that's your thing living wise. I like the cut and thrust of city centre living.
post #50 of 83
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Really? My sister is sharing a flat with 3 people and she's paying 180 a week. They're pretty central halls though, I think it's gonna be in holborn.

Depends on the halls: mine are £140/w, and that's at King's Cross, right in the middle of London. Obviously, the further out you go, the cheaper it gets.
post #51 of 83
Is that shared? I want private with a kitchen. None of this catered bull shit. I don't know how much KCL halls will be, my sisters LSE ones in holborn were 180ish a week though.
post #52 of 83
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post

IMO only Paris can compete with London for rudeness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London#Metropolitan_force_comparisons

From my experience Copenhagen, most of Germany and France are much much worse than London.

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Originally Posted by lasbar View Post

Everywhere you go , you will find lovely and horrible people..
On average , people living in London are quite friendly..

That's my point, the only place I have been where people are more polite is in Brazil.

You never hear people say sorry or excuse me that much anywhere else and they know to keep right on escalators etc. it just make getting around so much easier.
post #53 of 83
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Thanks everyone for the advice. Kinda surprised at the amount of people that suggested Bristol .. Will definitely look into it. Right now we are quite keen on Edinburgh. Any Edinburgh residents out there that could offer some information?
post #54 of 83

I have veen living in Berlin for a good while now and never seen any violence. Of course there is crime if you hang around with the wrong people, but I even worked in a ragged bar for a while and there were no bar fights, or drinking related violence whatsoever...

 

Same with other German towns and cities. It is a cultural thing, I think. I have a lot of friends who moved away from the UK exactly because of cities like Manchester, London etc...where the crime and violence rate has gone up so much. I do recommend Edinburgh though. Very nice, and lovely people. Spent a year there. It was amazing!

post #55 of 83
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I have veen living in Berlin for a good while now and never seen any violence. Of course there is crime if you hang around with the wrong people, but I even worked in a ragged bar for a while and there were no bar fights, or drinking related violence whatsoever...

Same with other German towns and cities. It is a cultural thing, I think. I have a lot of friends who moved away from the UK exactly because of cities like Manchester, London etc...where the crime and violence rate has gone up so much. I do recommend Edinburgh though. Very nice, and lovely people. Spent a year there. It was amazing!


I find people more polite in London /Folkestone than Paris even if Parisians are considered by other French as very rude too..

I used to live in Paris for 28 years and I got used to it....

My family is from the south west and people are quite friendly there even if complete strangers.

I do also find England in general more violent than most European places...

I don't feel comfortable bringing my wife to a football match to Chelsea when i will bring my kid to a PSG match without any doubt..

There is a potential for underlying violence when going out even in a small town like Folkestone...

Too much drinking and aggression..
post #56 of 83
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Originally Posted by chrispy179 View Post

Thanks everyone for the advice. Kinda surprised at the amount of people that suggested Bristol .. Will definitely look into it. Right now we are quite keen on Edinburgh. Any Edinburgh residents out there that could offer some information?

Definitely look at Bristol. In my opinion, Edinburgh and Bristol are the two nicest cities in the UK. Edinburgh is prettier, but Bristol is very relaxed with more cultural life than you can keep up with and (despite terrible WW2 bomb damage and unsymapthetic later 20th century rebuilding and modernising) still has its more than its fair share of beautiful buildings. Also Bath is a ten minute train ride if you want pretty buildings.

Proof (if you like limited surveys on a narrow range of parameters) from 2009: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8330514.stm
Also, I think people here probably wash their hands more now than a few years ago, so don't let that put you off.
post #57 of 83
Have a couple friends in Bristol, looks like a beautiful city. Apparently the city gets really good acts too.
post #58 of 83
I've worked in Bristol quite a lot, always enjoyed it.

Edinburgh is the second biggest tourist city after London in the UK. Got a few Michelin starred restaurants and generally high level cultural scene going on.
post #59 of 83
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Originally Posted by chrispy179 View Post

Thanks everyone for the advice. Kinda surprised at the amount of people that suggested Bristol .. Will definitely look into it. Right now we are quite keen on Edinburgh. Any Edinburgh residents out there that could offer some information?

I have never lived there, but I went to university in St Andrews about an hour away, so I spent a lot of time there and a lot of friends that lived there. My sister lives there. It is a lovely city. There is quite a lot going on for its size and location, but it is a fairly small city and slightly remote (there are quite a lot of direct flights to Edinburgh, but you may still find for some destinations you have to go via Glasgow or London). It is extremely pretty and you are a short journey from some truly beautiful landscapes. The weather is pretty bad though, I don't know where you are coming from, maybe you are used to very cold winters, but you should be aware winter in Edinburgh is pretty bleak.

Housing seems ok there, not too expensive. Certainly a lot of students and young first job types I know there had nicer places than they would have had in London. You should be aware though that a lot of the older buildings, whilst very pretty, are terribly cold due to their high ceilings and large single glazed windows. Unless they have been updated you basically can't heat them in any meaningful way, there is a joke along the lines of 'it is getting a bit cold in here, why don't you open a window'. Just be aware of that if you go flat hunting in the spring/summer and are being seduced by some of the scots baronial buildings. Any rental details should include the buildings 'energy efficiency rating' which will give you some idea of how well, or badly, insulated it is.

I don't know what the official crime rates are, but I never felt in any danger there, even late at night. It has some pretty poor and tough areas around it (and some years ago the whole place was fairly bad - see trainspotting) but they are nowhere you would every actually go. You do get the occasional stumbling and shouting drunken crusty old dude who may or may not be homeless which I know has slightly intimidated some girls I know who were at University there never amounted to anything more than that. I don't think it really impacted their lives beyond avoiding walking around late at night by themselves.

Public transport is just buses (and a fairly small tram system they seem to have been building for ever, with little indication it will ever be finished) but the city is small enough that with a few buses and on foot (or with a bicycle) it is pretty easy to get around. Taxis also always seemed pretty good value there.

I would live there. I would pack a good raincoat and some thick jumpers, and make sure I had a pretty warm flat, but I would definitely live there.
post #60 of 83
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Originally Posted by lasbar View Post

I find people more polite in London /Folkestone than Paris even if Parisians are considered by other French as very rude too..
I used to live in Paris for 28 years and I got used to it....
My family is from the south west and people are quite friendly there even if complete strangers.
I do also find England in general more violent than most European places...
I don't feel comfortable bringing my wife to a football match to Chelsea when i will bring my kid to a PSG match without any doubt..
There is a potential for underlying violence when going out even in a small town like Folkestone...
Too much drinking and aggression..

Apparently even Hearts v Hibs are fine. Just avoid Old Firm games in Scotland.

As for Bristol if you like 1960s tower blocks filled with carrot crunching yokels I'm sure its perfect.
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