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post #436 of 570
11/28/12 at 10:05am
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What exactly are you correcting? Vettel had two championships during and before the Brazilian grand prix - the times I was rooting for Alonso to beat him.

Sorry, you said had...
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post #437 of 570
11/28/12 at 3:38pm
Interesting analysis of Hamilton v Button at McLaren from James Allen.
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post #438 of 570
11/28/12 at 4:06pm
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Maybe not this year, but in the past for sure.

 

 


does cheating include purposely crashing into your main title contender to win the championship? because that's Senna covered. does cheating include creating double DRS even though it won't win you any titles (Mercedes)? or trialling KERS before no one else had?

 

it's all part of motorsport. cheating (i.e. finding holes in the regulations) can be innovative.

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post #439 of 570
11/28/12 at 7:03pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20531638
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Ferrari want to establish whether there is enough evidence to lodge a protest that, if successful, could overturn the result of the Formula 1 world championship.

They are "evaluating footage" that appears to show Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel making an illegal overtaking move in Sunday's Brazilian Grand Prix.

Spain's Fernando Alonso lost the title by three points to his German rival.

But Vettel could lose four points if he is deemed to have broken the rules.

Formula 1's governing body, the FIA, has so far refused to confirm that it is investigating the incident.

There is no word either from Vettel's Red Bull team, who could not be contacted for a comment.
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post #440 of 570
11/28/12 at 7:11pm
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20531638

 

sour grapes.

 

Ferrari should just cop it on the chin and admit they were beat, fair and square.

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post #441 of 570
11/28/12 at 7:25pm
The marshall waving the green flag right before Vettel overtakes settles it for me. Move on, Ferrari.
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post #442 of 570
11/29/12 at 9:38am
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does cheating include purposely crashing into your main title contender to win the championship? because that's Senna covered. does cheating include creating double DRS even though it won't win you any titles (Mercedes)? or trialling KERS before no one else had?

it's all part of motorsport. cheating (i.e. finding holes in the regulations) can be innovative.


Read up on Alsonso's history, he's an asshole. Told McLaren he'd cover for them in the Ferrari scandal if he was made team #1 above Hamilton. Worst political operator in the sport since Piquet.
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post #443 of 570
11/29/12 at 9:46am
Yeah, yeah, everyone agrees Alonso was a total dick in 2007 (maybe in 2004 too, and maybe 05-06 with Fisi's woes, and Massa in 2010). Otherwise he's still more fun to root for than Vettel. Not to mention he's a damn good driver. Maybe not the fastest but you can always rely on him and I enjoy trying to figure out how he'll make something out of nothing.
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post #444 of 570
11/29/12 at 9:54am
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Yeah, yeah, everyone agrees Alonso was a total dick in 2007 (maybe in 2004 too, and maybe 05-06 with Fisi's woes, and Massa in 2010). Otherwise he's still more fun to root for than Vettel. Not to mention he's a damn good driver. Maybe not the fastest but you can always rely on him and I enjoy trying to figure out how he'll make something out of nothing.


I cant choose between them. Vettel is such a little crybaby, just cant stand his attitude when everything doesnt go perfectly his way.
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post #445 of 570
11/29/12 at 10:18am
But you like Hamilton, right? I do, too, but he throws his toys out of the pram all the time.

Any way you slice it, we have some of the best drivers in the history of the sport in decent machinery, slugging it out every fortnight. It's a great time to be an F1 fan.
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post #446 of 570
11/29/12 at 11:31am
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But you like Hamilton, right? I do, too, but he throws his toys out of the pram all the time.
Any way you slice it, we have some of the best drivers in the history of the sport in decent machinery, slugging it out every fortnight. It's a great time to be an F1 fan.

Agreed. Most of you never saw F1 c late 80's to late 90's... shit awful racing.

Re Hamilton, I agree, but the shit Vettel bitches on make you do a double take and ask why. Even the commentators react that way. With Hamilton, he chucks the steering wheel when the car breaks, etc. Stuff you relate to.

That whine Vettel made about being passed because of a backmarker at the US GP was epic wa wa.
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post #447 of 570
11/29/12 at 2:01pm
Sadly (?), I am in fact old enough to have watched all of that! I remember watching Monaco on the Wide World of Sports!
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post #448 of 570
11/29/12 at 6:02pm
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But you like Hamilton, right? I do, too, but he throws his toys out of the pram all the time.
Any way you slice it, we have some of the best drivers in the history of the sport in decent machinery, slugging it out every fortnight. It's a great time to be an F1 fan.

Dunno about the bolded but he's certainly a man child lacking in the intelligence (streetwise I mean) department
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post #449 of 570
11/29/12 at 6:38pm
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Sadly (?), I am in fact old enough to have watched all of that! I remember watching Monaco on the Wide World of Sports!

I remember being in Europe as a little kid playing with a kid with these odd looking race cars and playing pretend race and calling out their names like Villeneuve, Lauda, I sill remember that JPS Lotus. I was watching Darrel Waltrip back then, running my own race with cars on the family room floor while it was on.

But F1 has a texture that no other form of racing has. You soften to some characters over time which is a great thing. I used to hate Schumi with a passion. Now, I liked him, a harmless old man. I may think that about Vettel one day. I didnt like Webber in the past, he was arrogant as hell, but I like him now, he's a real worker, a pro. Button is top class. Raikonnen has grown on me.

The 2 that never have are Piquet and Alonso. Its just different.
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post #450 of 570
11/29/12 at 7:29pm
Schumacher would still be a douche bag if he came back to the sport and was winning. He wasn't so he had no choice but to mellow out. I never hated him but I always rooted against him (02-06 when I started following) because he was so dominant. Same with Vettel (also because of his favoritism in 2010 as I was rooting for Mark WEbber).
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