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post #46 of 93
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Originally Posted by aj_del View Post
Herring has a new double monk from Churchs for 475 GBP. Is it worth 170 GBP more than Lowndes or 90 GBP more than teh AS Ramsey


In that price range I would at least expect channelled soles.
post #47 of 93
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Originally Posted by Son Of Saphir View Post
trickers not good,
5 spi on double soles at most.
Leather average.
Using cheaper material now.


Yes Church have many range.
Old goodyear is good.
Me have new goodyear church with higher spi sole stitch than old pre prada church.
Old Church better finish.
Quality still very good for factory made.

I'm not sure what you base that on - sounds like bollocks. The Tricker's I have seen on sale look pretty good. The leather quality is certainly on a par with C&J, and the construction is excellent.
post #48 of 93
[quote=Son Of Saphir;3708609]trickers not good,
5 spi on double soles at most.
Leather average.
Using cheaper material now.
QUOTE]

I havent a clue on what this is based

I have , at least, 8 pairs of different model Trickers shoes & boots and would
totally disagree with this sentiment but that is just my opinion.
post #49 of 93
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Originally Posted by radicaldog View Post
In that price range I would at least expect channelled soles.

The leather on these is amazing, the soles are not upto much. The toe box is soft. Is it worth more than Lowndes, yes. Is it worth £170 more? No.

The double strap monks in the now defunct Royals range of Church's were superb - I have three pairs.
post #50 of 93
[quote=kev777;3718784][quote=Son Of Saphir;3708609]trickers not good,
5 spi on double soles at most.
Leather average.
Using cheaper material now.
QUOTE]

I havent a clue on what this is based

I have , at least, 8 pairs of different model Trickers shoes & boots and would
totally disagree with this sentiment but that is just my opinion.[/QUOTE

I've got four pairs - x 2 Bourton, x 1 Epsom, x 1 Grasmere. They certainly hold their own in the ring with the likes of Church's, C&J, Grenson, Cheaney, etc. In fact, you perhaps get a little bit more with Tricker's e.g. channelled leather soles in their JS and 1829 collections. Have a look at the Shoehealer's Tricker's MTO section. For fans of cordovan there's a semi-brogue that's well worth a look. https://www.shoehealer.co.uk/Tricker...ker_s_Gallery/
post #51 of 93
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Originally Posted by rabiesinfrance View Post
I'm not sure what you base that on - sounds like bollocks. The Tricker's I have seen on sale look pretty good. The leather quality is certainly on a par with C&J, and the construction is excellent.
Me have many Trickers.
A drastic change has occured in last 18 months.
Look,
should be obvious.
Me correct.

[quote=kev777;3718784]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Son Of Saphir View Post
trickers not good,
5 spi on double soles at most.
Leather average.
Using cheaper material now.
QUOTE]

I havent a clue on what this is based

I have , at least, 8 pairs of different model Trickers shoes & boots and would
totally disagree with this sentiment but that is just my opinion.

All me four double sole pair have 5 spi stitching on soles.
post #52 of 93
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Originally Posted by radicaldog View Post
In that price range I would at least expect channelled soles.

Agreed. It's 75 quid more than C & J handgrade, which will have channelled soles
post #53 of 93
post #54 of 93
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Originally Posted by HHD View Post
Le Bon Marché has a new "City Line" by Church's, cheaper than the standard range. They look really cheap, like (for example) Prada shoes.

I suppose they're diversifying: A less pricey starter line, while the Shanghai range featured above clearly caters for the blind.


Also inspected the City Line in Venice's Church's store (incongruous alongside some of the real thing - beautiful lizard & crocodile models) - Prada already do perfectly usable throw away fashion shoes which last a season ( as do Boss, D&G etc.) & are priced similarlly to to those branded as Church City Line.

Will guys going to their first job buy these through lack of experience? If so will they be put off the brand? Alternatively is this better than them buying some uber-fashionable D&Gs which will be unwearable within a year/data quicker than the latest tatoos?

As a big fan of the company I'd urge them to go higher end not lower.
post #55 of 93

Dear all,

I bought another pair of church shoes... unfortunately I had many many problems due to their quality and CHURCH is not supporting in any way.

I brought my sohoes back ti the Churck store and they gave me those back after 2 months with the same problem...

SInce that moment I m still trying to get support from CHurch UK but without any success...

Did anyone of you have any similar experience? what have you done?

Please help me!!!

Hy

post #56 of 93

I'm suprised that you have had problems with Church's after sales, I send mine back for repair and they come back fantastic every time, even if I have mistreated them.

I find them helpful and communicative, and they certainly seem to be trying to improve their image since the perceived drop in quality when Prada came in.

Have you spoken with them on the 'phone?

 

Oops.... I just saw the date on your post, hope you got everything sorted by now!!

post #57 of 93
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Originally Posted by Sator View Post

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Originally Posted by norcaltransplant
Following the Prada acquisition, and even before, Church's preferred to make extensive use of cobbler calf or corrected grain in their offerings. This is still true today, though I believe the majority of the current models are full grain calfskin of similar quality to crockett.

When I visited their New York store on Madison Ave the place was full of corrected grain leather shoes selling for exorbitant prices. I ran out horrified.

You pay the price of an EG and get the quality of Loakes.

I would be reluctant to pay any more than about $120 for a pair of Church's.

You have no idea what corrected grain means.

post #58 of 93
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Originally Posted by Snedley View Post

You have no idea what corrected grain means.

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post #59 of 93
I went into Church's in London last week. Surprised to find that many of their shoes were half leather lined with linen linings. Seriously shit at that price point. A few nasty polished binder ones and some seriously weird brogues with sparkly gems all over them. They are getting less British by the year (I know they are owned by Prada). C&J, in contrast, are in the button with their look - old fashioned (in a good way) and very plush shop interior in their new shop on Jermyn Street. All the staff dressed in suits. You can't help to be impressed by the attention to detail. Other makers must be bricking themselves.
post #60 of 93
I've got these Church's Brisbanes and for comparison also C&J Drummonds. The C&J's have smoother and more flexible leather whereas the Church's are built like a tank with stiffer and maybe a tad thicker leather. At least mine are leather lined. IMO there isn't any real quality difference, just depends on the styling you prefer. C&J are a bit more aggressive whereas Church's are more traditional.

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