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post #31 of 45
Change your habits to feeling normal and comfortable to slightly uncomfortable and miserable. Doesn't have to be extreme.

Example: You normally wake up at 8 am and zombie like start your daily routine.
Change: set your alarm at 5 am and but some dumbbells near your bed and upon waking begin any type of workout with them. You won't go back to bed once you start no matter how much you think so.

Example 2: You normally get home from your day and settle into your routine.
Change: leave a bicycle at your driveway, doorstep and force your self to ride your bike around your neighboorhood for some time before you settle home.

This is really behavioral. Unless you are drastically increasing your normal caloric intake, this should work. Remember, miserable people are generally thinner.
post #32 of 45
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and this is why i stick to dismissive condescension instead of starting a real discussion when dealing with people who are full of shit.
Here, I'll fix this for you

"...this is why I start with dismissive condescension instead of starting a real discussion when dealing with people. Because internet trolling has given me a new lease on life". : )

Really, 2nd my last post here.
Edited by tradernick - 2/19/12 at 2:33am
post #33 of 45
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Actually, you're the one who is wrong.
Meal timing is completely irrelevant when macros are controlled across diets.
If you're on a 1500kcal diet and you eat that entire portion of calories minutes before you go to bed it will not in any way negatively affect body composition.
You're parroting old myths.
Amazing how misinformed some folks are. If you really care enough to educate yourself, try asking a dietitian whether starving yourself all day and then stuffing in 1500 cal just before sleep is the optimal way to lose fat.

You and your bodybuilder buddy are on ignore. You can post just to show you know how to get the last word, but I won't see it.
Edited by tradernick - 2/19/12 at 2:40am
post #34 of 45
I bet trader nick is fat.
post #35 of 45
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I bet trader nick is fat.

I guarantee he is fat and/or has a terrible physique, it comes out as anger in his writing.

Ask a dietician? Okay, how about I ask Alan Aragon or Lyle McDonald if it matters.

Actually, I have and I now know the answer, with clinical research to back up the claims.




For those of you who would like to step outside of making your life miserable so you can lose a few pounds, here are a few good links to visit and start educating yourself.

http://www.leangains.com/

Leangains is a fasting period followed by a feeding period. Typically 16 hours fast, 8 hour feeding window.

http://www.alanaragon.com/

Alan is one of the most respected Nutritionists in the industry. His book and research review are well worth the money, especially if you're wasting the money already on supplements that don't work.

Lastly,
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/

Lyle McDonald is great as well.
post #36 of 45
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Amazing how misinformed some folks are. If you really care enough to educate yourself, try asking a dietitian whether starving yourself all day and then stuffing in 1500 cal just before sleep is the optimal way to lose fat.
You and your bodybuilder buddy are on ignore. You can post just to show you know how to get the last word, but I won't see it.

That was easy.

edit: but i'm not a bodybuilder. strong assumptions.
post #37 of 45
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I bet trader nick is fat.

I got the fat, MC, goober vibe from him as well.
post #38 of 45
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try asking a dietitian whether starving yourself all day and then stuffing in 1500 cal just before sleep is the optimal way to lose fat.

You continue to humor me. Please tell me how in the fuck did you make the (very logical) leap from
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I'm not advocating eating a lot before bed, but doing so is in no way detrimental to fat loss goals.

this to the nonsense you spouted above

can you please leave the internets, preferably forever

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I got the fat, MC, goober vibe from him as well.

Just another weekend warrior who knows shit all about dieting and meal frequency, often found on fitness messageboards.
post #39 of 45
Strong possibility trader nick also thinks squats are bad for the knees, believes in tonning, too much protein is bad for you and likes bosu balls. The bro science goes hand in hand.
post #40 of 45

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Sazerac has it basically right.

1. Cut out all bread, pasta, rice.

2. Run long distances at a very slow pace. I mean 4.5 on a treadmill or even a notch lower.

3. Limit your caloric intake to 1400/day. Make them quality calories. If anyone tells you this isn't enough calories to sustain health, tell them they don't know what they're talking about. Do not take in any calories within two hours of sleep.

That's it. Take a high quality fish oil every day. If you don't fall off the wagon, the pounds will drop off fast, especially since your body is used to being at the lower weight. One more thing -

4. Hardest part ( for me). If you were 145 - 150 at 5'11", it means that you don't do much weight training. The # 2 thing that guys do not do as they get older (other than keep the gut off) is work to maintain (and in your case, increase) muscle mass. You really should do some weight training. Losing weight fast will necessarily take a bit of muscle mass with it (although if you are careful you can limit this). Muscle burns fat.

And sorry, you can't drink that much.
 

1. There's no reason to cut out certain foods. You can eat whatever as long as IIFYM

2.High Intensity is better than low

3. 1400 calories? No, you don't know his maintence so how can you tell? Not eating before bed? Eat whenever you want

 

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Strong possibility trader nick also thinks squats are bad for the knees, believes in tonning, too much protein is bad for you and likes bosu balls. The bro science goes hand in hand.
post #41 of 45

1) Drink lots of water

 

2) Lessen carb intake - cut beer 100% - Drink Clear Tequila / 1 lime / soda water - Or Vodka on ice - Or Cognac neat if you're going to drink.  Cut or lower simple carbs / sugars ie, breads / pasta / soda

 

3) HIIT + Weights - The more muscle you have the higher your metabolism is going to be.  Maybe do some light relaxing cardio activities on rest days for fun and to continue to train your body to burn fat.

 

4) Eat lean meats / veggies

 

5) Get 8+ hrs of sleep a night.  If you get less than 6 your hormones and metabolism are getting fucked

 

6) Manage stress.  

post #42 of 45

I had a similar weight-gain experience right out of college. I graduated at 6'0" about 165. When I started working a sedentary desk job and drinking 3-4 craft beers a night, I broke 200 before I even realized it. I'm still working on getting it off several years later, but I'm now trying harder than ever. Anyway, I wanted to make a few specific points.

 

You said it's "too much beer." That was definitely one of my problems as well. Perhaps you're drinking shitty macrobrewery beer, but if you're more of the foodie type and in to craft beer (or even if you're not), I would recommend you switch your interest to wine. Obviously cutting out all alcohol will be the quickest path to losing weight, but it may not be sustainable permanently. Try cutting out all alcohol for a month or two, but if you do start drinking again you can drink 1 glass a day, at most 2. Wine can be a bit daunting, but once you get into it a little it is great. I was obsessed with beer, but hardly look back. The book Drink This is an excellent beginner's intro. My library had a copy.

 

Many people recommended weight training. I have started doing this in the last year, but I didn't know the first thing about it. I never played any organized sports. I was clueless, but I do like reading. I found the book The New Rules of Lifting (also available at my library), and it is a great intro to weight training (as well as some nutrition tips). The trainers lay out complete programs, and the first eight weeks or so are dedicated entirely to fat loss. I'm not sure if you will necessarily lose pounds per se,  but it should definitely help you get more "lean."

post #43 of 45

The only way u can successfully manage it is to have a good start - think positive. Don't panic about ur weight and don't put the pressure on urself. Just feel like ur new situation is ur new you. Trust me

post #44 of 45
Caloric deficit is key ... Be patient
post #45 of 45

Sorry if someone has already offered this...

 

My GF and I tried this and it worked.

 

Her MD gave her a two or three page list of stuff to avoid.  I think it came from the South Beach Diet book.

 

No bread, pasta, or rice and no root vegies.  That's basically what we did and pounds and inches came off from the start.

 

I think there are several similar diets out there- low or no empty carbs diets.

 

Good luck.

 

A warning: lose it while you are young.  It only gets more difficult with age.

 

Cheers,

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