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post #16 of 45
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Originally Posted by Sazerac View Post

I'm not an exercise freak, nor am I a dietician, but I was in a similar state when I was finishing my first book. I had packed on 20 pounds I didn't need.
I cut out ALL bread, pasta, as well as starches and sugars that came from anything but raw, natural fruit. Then I started walking four or five miles a day along with weightlifting at home. I lost the 20 pounds in two months.
My brother in law, a physician, confirmed what I guess I already knew: my body learned how to use fat for energy again rather than relying on the carbs, while the exercise increased my overall metabolic rate.
Easy peasy.

This is some of the best, clear advice I have ever read on SF about weight loss and getting fit.

Good job!
post #17 of 45
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Originally Posted by tradernick View Post

Sazerac has it basically right.
1. Cut out all bread, pasta, rice.
2. Run long distances at a very slow pace. I mean 4.5 on a treadmill or even a notch lower.
3. Limit your caloric intake to 1400/day. Make them quality calories. If anyone tells you this isn't enough calories to sustain health, tell them they don't know what they're talking about. Do not take in any calories within two hours of sleep.
That's it. Take a high quality fish oil every day. If you don't fall off the wagon, the pounds will drop off fast, especially since your body is used to being at the lower weight. One more thing -
4. Hardest part ( for me). If you were 145 - 150 at 5'11", it means that you don't do much weight training. The # 2 thing that guys do not do as they get older (other than keep the gut off) is work to maintain (and in your case, increase) muscle mass. You really should do some weight training. Losing weight fast will necessarily take a bit of muscle mass with it (although if you are careful you can limit this). Muscle burns fat.
And sorry, you can't drink that much.

smh
post #18 of 45
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post

smh
I had to look this one up. I guess I'm too old. : )

So 'smh' means 'shaking my head'? If so, don't be a wimp. Speak up, boy! Why are you 'shaking your head' about the idea that you shouldn't eat late at night? Your advice for someone who's trying to lose weight is to down a pint of Haagen-Dazs and then hit the hay?
post #19 of 45
can you spell straw man
post #20 of 45
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Originally Posted by tradernick View Post

I had to look this one up. I guess I'm too old. : )
So 'smh' means 'shaking my head'? If so, don't be a wimp. Speak up, boy! Why are you 'shaking your head' about the idea that you shouldn't eat late at night? Your advice for someone who's trying to lose weight is to down a pint of Haagen-Dazs and then hit the hay?

right, because i said that.

but sure, iifym.
post #21 of 45
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post

right, because i said that.
but sure, iifym.
Come on! Be a man. Stand up and say what you mean. Don't hide behind the troll-acronyms! : ).

Shaking your head why? Because you think people who are trying to lose fat should eat a lot just before going to bed?
post #22 of 45
do you have some deep-seated issues with comprehending the english language or something to that effect? You're making shit up that was not implied.
post #23 of 45
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Originally Posted by tradernick View Post

Come on! Be a man. Stand up and say what you mean. Don't hide behind the troll-acronyms! : ).
Shaking your head why? Because you think people who are trying to lose fat should eat a lot just before going to bed?

My point is that the "no eating X hours before bed" rule is physiologically useless, like much of the dogmatic advice people parrot online. There may be behavioral implications for some people (eg, someone who typically eats a box of cookies before going to bed every night) but that's beside the point.

I'm not advocating eating a lot before bed, but doing so is in no way detrimental to fat loss goals.
post #24 of 45
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post

My point is that the "no eating X hours before bed" rule is physiologically useless, like much of the dogmatic advice people parrot online. There may be behavioral implications for some people (eg, someone who typically eats a box of cookies before going to bed every night) but that's beside the point.
I'm not advocating eating a lot before bed, but doing so is in no way detrimental to fat loss goals.
There you go - a grown up response. Don't you feel better? You're wrong, but that doesn't matter.

I get the impression that you're one of these muscle building types who has no connection to the needs of the average couch potato who's trying to shed the gut. For the majority of them, there are lifestyle changes that are needed, and cutting out the late night Haagen Dazs is crucial.

I'll put it another way. The whole battle for the majority of people is behavioral, and not physiological. The behavioral considerations are not beside the point, they are the point for the majority. In addition, most of what I posted has to do with physiology. Finally, I'm relating what worked for me because I had to do the same thing at one time.

In any case, it's nice to see you taking a step in the right direction in terms of how to communicate with others. Don't worry, a lot of people fall into the trap of speaking online in ways they wouldn't in person.
post #25 of 45

First calculate how kcals your body need in a day if you don't do any exercise. Then eat 10% to 20% less than what yourn body requires. Do cardio every day ~40 minutes, and you will be back to your old self in a few months. 

 

And ofcourse only eat the healthy stuff, no fastfood, enough vegetables and fruit.

 

Just my 2 cents

post #26 of 45
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Originally Posted by tradernick View Post

There you go - a grown up response. Don't you feel better? You're wrong, but that doesn't matter.
I get the impression that you're one of these muscle building types who has no connection to the needs of the average couch potato who's trying to shed the gut. For the majority of them, there are lifestyle changes that are needed, and cutting out the late night Haagen Dazs is crucial.

whether someone is a 'muscle building type' or a couch potato is irrelevant - refraining from eating x hours before bed is unnecessary and in no way beneficial to fat loss assuming calories are controlled.
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I'll put it another way. The whole battle for the majority of people is behavioral, and not physiological. The behavioral considerations are not beside the point, they are the point for the majority. In addition,

if OP follows your 1,400 calorie/day rule, his behavior has already been corrected. so show me why eating within two hours of bed is bad.

conversely, if someone eats a pint of haagen daaz 3 hours before bed, how has your 2-hour-before-bed rule accomplished anything?
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most of what I posted has to do with physiology. Finally, I'm relating what worked for me because I had to do the same thing at one time.

lol anecdotes.
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In any case, it's nice to see you taking a step in the right direction in terms of how to communicate with others. Don't worry, a lot of people fall into the trap of speaking online in ways they wouldn't in person.

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post #27 of 45
I'll respond in your (initial) style.
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post

whether someone is a 'muscle building type' or a couch potato is irrelevant - refraining from eating x hours before bed is unnecessary and in no way beneficial to fat loss assuming calories are controlled.
lmao
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post

if OP follows your 1,400 calorie/day rule, his behavior has already been corrected.
ROTFLMAO.
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Originally Posted by BBSLM View Post

conversely, if someone eats a pint of haagen daaz 3 hours before bed, how has your 2-hour-before-bed rule accomplished anything?
wtf?

My last post here. I think the OP got enough continuity in the responses to formulate a plan. Losing weight for the vast majority is a matter of behavioural adjustment. For these people, not being able to take the weight off means you have a weakness. Either you'll overcome it or you won't. Failure doesn't matter. All that matter is whether or not you try again.
post #28 of 45
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Originally Posted by tradernick View Post

I'll respond in your (initial) style. lmao
ROTFLMAO.
wtf?
My last post here.

and this is why i stick to dismissive condescension instead of starting a real discussion when dealing with people who are full of shit.
Edited by BBSLM - 2/18/12 at 8:06pm
post #29 of 45
If you have an iPhone, get the app "Lose It!" It is great for tracking your daily consumption.
post #30 of 45
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Originally Posted by tradernick View Post

There you go - a grown up response. Don't you feel better? You're wrong, but that doesn't matter.
I get the impression that you're one of these muscle building types who has no connection to the needs of the average couch potato who's trying to shed the gut. For the majority of them, there are lifestyle changes that are needed, and cutting out the late night Haagen Dazs is crucial.
I'll put it another way. The whole battle for the majority of people is behavioral, and not physiological. The behavioral considerations are not beside the point, they are the point for the majority. In addition, most of what I posted has to do with physiology. Finally, I'm relating what worked for me because I had to do the same thing at one time.
In any case, it's nice to see you taking a step in the right direction in terms of how to communicate with others. Don't worry, a lot of people fall into the trap of speaking online in ways they wouldn't in person.

Actually, you're the one who is wrong.

Meal timing is completely irrelevant when macros are controlled across diets.


If you're on a 1500kcal diet and you eat that entire portion of calories minutes before you go to bed it will not in any way negatively affect body composition.


You're parroting old myths.
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