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What did it cost?
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These companies make a big deal over "evacuation" of the bowl, but the bigger issue with the low-volume toilets is the relatively small area of the, uh, pool.
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Yeah, they create too many streaks, so you end up flushing several times.
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I'm all about saving resources, such as water, but what it seems even a few extra flushes would negate any savings.  The EPA label is for 1.28 gallons per flush.  Let's assume you flush the toilet six times a day.  That's 2800 gallons per year vs 1752 gallons per year with a 0.8 gallon per flush model. 


One thousand gallons of water seems like a good savings (though from a $ perspective in the US 1000 gallons is trivial).  It would take 1310 extra flushes to consume the water difference, so if you have to flush twice half the time because of the lower water consumption, you break even.

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If its yellow let it mellow 

If its brown flush it down

                                NorCal drought poetry

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We certainly do not use extra flushes - as well as following the yellow / brown rule. The system seems to be very effective and we haven't had any problems with pool or trap size. Cost was around $260 CAN.


Our shower is also the lowest flow shower available (from Bricor - the B110 model rated at 1.125 gallons per minute) - and that works well too. We don't have a great deal of choice but to be frugal with water as we rely entirely on rainwater collection: there is no mains water or sewage where we live.


(just to remind you, you can find out the whole story here)



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Went to Ferguson today to look at faucets and such.  Picked out a Grohe faucet and shower system, Kohler toilet and sink, a medicine cabinet, and a couple light fixtures to compare.  Everything there should come out to under $3K and tile will be next weekend.  


We will also decide on a contractor this week and they should be able to start in April some time so we have time.  I am pretty excited after deciding on fixtures.

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New to the thread as I have just purchased an 1879 4 story terrace in extremely poor (near original) condition

I don't have any background in construction or any experience with renovations so I am expecting to get cucked repeatedly

We have contracted an architect with experience in heritage restorations and conversions, who will be doing most of the work overseeing the builders
This was very necessary in our particular case because there is an extremely fascistic heritage council which oversees any modifications that can be made, with a byzantine set of regulations and applications processes.

We have agreed to the nonnegotiable and structural issues that need to be addressed: we need to dig up the lower ground floor and put in damp proofing, plus obviously completely redo the wiring and plumbing etc

We are currently going through the process of deciding what we would like to do with the floorplan and backyard
Currently it is my wife and one child, but we may/probably will have another child

Each level is around 700sqft

-Lower ground floor has the original 1880s cast iron stove and sandstone walls. As per the heritage council directives we are allowed to build a 350sqft modern extension (with sympathetic features). The front half of this level will probably be a guest bedroom with ensuite that can alternately be opened up (via concertina/french doors) to use as a second lounge room. The back half will be a kitchen extending out through the extension and to the back yard

-Ground floor (street level) will remain as a living area and opens out at the back to a balcony overlooking the yard

-First floor will be entirely dedicated as the main bedroom/ensuite with front and rear balconies. Bedroom is around 370sqft so quite large, but we will build wardrobes around the walls (no dressing room). Bathroom is around 200sqft and will open out on to the rear balcony.

-Second floor is currently three bedrooms. I imagine we will convert one of them to a shared bathroom as I think the rooms are too small to each have an ensuite and we probably don't need that may bedrooms (would be 4 bed, 3 bath in this favored configuration)

The main bones of contention between my wife and I are

1. My wife, the architect and the local real estate agents are saying we should put in an elevator if we want to be sure of a good resale value as a 4 level house may be a bit much for older/impaired people (or just rich people who cant be bothered walking up stairs)
We have been told around 100k to install the elevator which I thought was very reasonable, but god knows how much the maintenance will be.
Additionally, it eats up quite a bit of floor space, and the only suitable position for it to be installed is at the western side, next to the rear balconies, which has lovely views over the harbour and future garden (would be a scenic trip every time you used it I suppose)

Anyone have any experience with elevators in domestic homes?

2. My wife insists that we need a large laundry.
The only reasonable place to put it would be next to the kitchen at the rear of the lower ground floor. This level seems to me to be the one we will use the most as it opens out on to the backyard, and I would like to preserve the flow from indoor to outdoor without something as utilitarian and infrequently used as a laundry in the way.
I've suggested a very small laundry perhaps in the relatively dark/dingy front of the lower ground floor (next to the ensuite of the guest bedroom), as it only really needs space for a washer and dryer and maybe a cupboard.
I really don't think most people care at all about the laundry?
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Originally Posted by Numbernine View Post

If its yellow let it mellow 
If its brown flush it down
                                NorCal drought poetry

I first heard that from my undergrad micro prof.

NB: he was not a micro person, but a microbiology professor
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@skeen7908 We had a 4 story townhouse.  Lowest floor = garage, level 1 = front door, kitchen, living room, level 2 = 2 bedrooms with one being the master, level 3 = bonus room.  We never used the top floor as it had terrible circulation, was always warmer and we had to walk up there to get to it.  Some of the townhouses had elevators and ever floor seemed used in those townhouses.  We currently have laundry in our basement/garage and there is enough room and we like it.  If we had laundry in an area like your wife wants, it would turn into a mud room/laundry but you could close doors so you wouldn't see the machines the whole time.


Sounds like you have quite the project on your hands.  Those housing boards are sometimes a pain in the add but at least they keep the neighborhood looking good.

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