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post #4831 of 5753
Reading through our bid for the yard. Anyone have experience with outdoor travertine? It's about 1/3 more than traditional pavers but thinking of going for it. 2k square feet will get the treatment so it's a major visual feature. Also apparently travertine is natural "cool decking" in that it doesn't get hot in the sun.

Love the new technology. The equipment for the pool/spa will also tie into the landscape lighting. The pump has built in wifi and I'll be able to control all my lighting and pool/spa controls on an app. I already have sound throughout the property covered with the Sonos app so I can control everything going on in the backyard while in a lounge chair or the spa. smile.gif
post #4832 of 5753
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Reading through our bid for the yard. Anyone have experience with outdoor travertine? It's about 1/3 more than traditional pavers but thinking of going for it. 2k square feet will get the treatment so it's a major visual feature. Also apparently travertine is natural "cool decking" in that it doesn't get hot in the sun.

Love the new technology. The equipment for the pool/spa will also tie into the landscape lighting. The pump has built in wifi and I'll be able to control all my lighting and pool/spa controls on an app. I already have sound throughout the property covered with the Sonos app so I can control everything going on in the backyard while in a lounge chair or the spa. smile.gif

Do you have sonos driving outdoor speakers or sonos as an input in a receiver that drives the speakers? Also, how reliable is sonos/does it cut out at all? Thinking of going with them for the whole house and yard, some songs speakers and some to existing receivers.
post #4833 of 5753
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Do you have sonos driving outdoor speakers or sonos as an input in a receiver that drives the speakers? Also, how reliable is sonos/does it cut out at all? Thinking of going with them for the whole house and yard, some songs speakers and some to existing receivers.

I would highly recommend the system in general. I don't have any of the Sonos self contained speakers at this time but think I'll end up with some outside at some point. Here's my set up right now:

Home theatre. This plugs into a Connect and the audio install for the home theatre drives all those speakers.

Various room: we have in ceiling Sonance speakers. Each set of speakers is driven by a Connect Amp.

Patio: same as various rooms, speakers in the finished ceiling of our covered patio.

Each set of speakers is a named zone, i.e. dining room, master bedroom, bedroom #2 and can play completely different sources or even just a different play list from the same source (like our NAS).

Speaking of our NAS we have all of our music stored there for easy access by the Sonos system. Sonos also comes with various Internet streaming options. We have the free TuneIn radio and it's very stable with a million choices for genres and many stations for each genre.

When we build that ramada I'll probably go with the self-powered wifi Sonos speakers.

App (Android and Iphone) runs the entire system as well as an app for any computer. It's awesome to be sitting outside and able to totally control the music.

All in all I highly recommend the system.
post #4834 of 5753
And we just pulled the plug on the entire yard project. Mrs. Piob got cold feet about the huge cash outlay. *sigh*
post #4835 of 5753
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And we just pulled the plug on the entire yard project. Mrs. Piob got cold feet about the huge cash outlay. *sigh*

What would be the potential ROI on the project, do you think?

Edit: if any at all, that is.
post #4836 of 5753
Curb appeal can make or break a sale but huge landscaping projects rarely have a decent roi. They are there for you to enjoy while you can.
post #4837 of 5753
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What would be the potential ROI on the project, do you think?

Edit: if any at all, that is.

A planned 20 year+ hold period and nothing but expenses. It will greatly improve quality of life when we get it done though.
post #4838 of 5753
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

What would be the potential ROI on the project, do you think?

Edit: if any at all, that is.

A planned 20 year+ hold period and nothing but expenses. It will greatly improve quality of life when we get it done though.
Ha, beat you by a few seconds. wink.gif
post #4839 of 5753
She's probably right, as to borrow from Gordon Gecko, you have to watch your capital reserves as you can't pee in the tall grass with the big dogs without them. We'll just save another year.
post #4840 of 5753
I've been looking at homes lately.. not because I want to buy at this point, but I sure as hell do in the next 3-4 years after I settle down in a city and it's fun looking at what I could get. And boy, prices are a racket! Obviously depends on location, but we've recovered from the housing crisis, and then some, no?

Do any of you get nervous that we'll have another housing correction in the next five years or so? We're seeing high-end housing prices starting to come down and inventory building up. Doesn't that trend eventually flow downmarket?

Even if I were in the market now, I would be hesitant to pull the trigger and would maybe wait it out for another couple years.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid.
post #4841 of 5753
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I've been looking at homes lately.. not because I want to buy at this point, but I sure as hell do in the next 3-4 years after I settle down in a city and it's fun looking at what I could get. And boy, prices are a racket! Obviously depends on location, but we've recovered from the housing crisis, and then some, no?

Do any of you get nervous that we'll have another housing correction in the next five years or so? We're seeing high-end housing prices starting to come down and inventory building up. Doesn't that trend eventually flow downmarket?

Even if I were in the market now, I would be hesitant to pull the trigger and would maybe wait it out for another couple years.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Around 2007ish prices had gone up so much in a few years that most people couldn't afford to move into their homes if they already didn't own them. Many new buyers were getting interest only/subprime loans and buying homes that they couldn't afford. We are not anywhere near that now, so no, not really worried about that.

Also source of the bolded nationally?
post #4842 of 5753
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And we just pulled the plug on the entire yard project. Mrs. Piob got cold feet about the huge cash outlay. *sigh*

What would be the potential ROI on the project, do you think?

Edit: if any at all, that is.

Ill add that you can throw in garages to this. It was a sticking point to my wife that I wanted a two car garage to house our vehicles and we settled on a house with a very old 1.75 car garage. (Literally barely fits our 2 cars. We looked at tearing it down and starting new but we'd never recoup the cost in selling. Maybe if it was our forever house (or a 20 year house) but we plan on moving on shortly.

Garages are expensive and their value is never well represented in home sales. Just like landscaping/outdoor improvements.
post #4843 of 5753

Been doing a bunch of work on the house.  Maybe 20 hrs pruning trees and bushes.  Then our contractor said that behind the wallpaper in our bedroom was some kind of painted paper that would have to be scraped away, down to the bare plaster.  I decided to do it myself.  

Took about eight hours to take down the wallpaper and backing paper, to wet and scrape the painted paper, and then to wipe down the layer of brown stuff (glue?) that was left in almost all the areas but the one exposed above. I'm fairly happy with the final results, but we'll see what the contractor thinks.

 

Then I stripped paint off a door.  First I coated it with Dumond Smart Strip, a zero VOC, biodegradable stripper that my brother recommended.  After about eight hours, I saw that it had lifted a few layers of white paint.  So I took that off with a putty knife.  Didn't take a pic, unfortunately.  The next day, the next few layers of paint had cracked and bubbled.

This stuff wouldn't come off with a putty knife, So I used a small chisel and a wire brush.  

I think there's still a few more layers I could remove. Will probably need to give it another coat of the Smart Strip stuff.  Our painter said the problem with using a chemical paint remover is that you need to go all the way down to the wood, or new paint probably won't adhere well.

 

Since this is Styleforum, here's a pic of the shell Rider boots I was wearing.  They'll clean up like they didn't go through such abuse.

post #4844 of 5753

Man I gotta hand it to you. That is a lotta work for a door. I would of pulled it off, removed the hardware, hit it hard with an orbital sander,primed and repainted. I kinda like that heavy encapsulated look in older houses also I'm lazy when it comes to prep. 

post #4845 of 5753

Thanks N, but really I'm lazy too, which is why I didn't remove the hardware.  Plus, the hinges were caked w/ paint.  But the real reason is probably that I don't own an orbital sander.  A dremel tool is about as fancy as I get.

 

Good point about the caked/encapsualted look.  I thought about doing nothing to them, but our painters have already spent several days scraping the trim, so I thought that paint-caked doors wouldn't match the trim. The head painter recommended replacing the doors or doing nothing to them.  But our contractor thinks they're original to the house, so I figured I might as well spend some time restoring them.   A pic of the trim, that I don't think I've posted:

You can see that they got down to the tan color, which is where the stripper got to with almost no effort.  But with just plain scraping, their tan is stable, whereas mine was bubbling and needed to be removed with perhaps about as much effort as their scraping.  Not sure which is best, but I'm having fun.

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