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I'm thinking of going with Thermador for cooktop/wall ovens/dishwasher. Anyone have any experience with them?
post #4577 of 5811
We have the star burner rangetop and love it. But didn't get the wall oven because of reliability issues and bad reviews. Only Bosch dishwashers for me.

Are you installing a makeup air system? Even if the code doesn't require it you should get it if you are going with a big burner and fan.
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Anyone have experience switching from copper pipe to PEX and doing it themselves? Worth the cost and hassle?
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What do you hope to get out of the exchange?
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I'm thinking of going with Thermador for cooktop/wall ovens/dishwasher. Anyone have any experience with them?

We have a Thermador range and the top end dishwasher that they make. We love both. No issues, look good, work well.
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What do you hope to get out of the exchange?

We've had the house for 6 months and during that time I've done some minor plumbing work under the bathroom sinks, each job I've done I've needed to replace small sections of pipe and assuming that what I don't see behind the walls as at least as bad as what I can see.

Given that I'm likely going to want to overhaul the pipes throughout the house, I'm looking at my options. I think if I redo in copper I'll likely need to have someone do the work as I don't trust myself to sweat that many joins, but I think I'd be pretty comfortable doing PEX myself.

Just wondered if anyone has done it and can give some input.
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We have a short run of PEX in our garage and the only worry I would have would be where the pipes are located within the house.  Are they on interior or exterior walls?  While the PEX pipes themselves can expand if the water were to freeze, the fittings seem to be the weak point as they come in a variety of materials.  Ours are a plastic like material and if they were to have issues, the shut off is right there and are easily accessible but if in a wall, it would be another thing.

 

I think PEX would be easier to DIY if you were in a 1-story ranch style house instead of a 2-story as there would be a lot more cutting to remove the old copper.  I know our old copper is fit into some tight spaces so it would have to be removed before any new pipe was put in its place.

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Goddamn. Getting quotes for a new metal roof on my cabin - straight shed runs, 1340 sq ft' in total. 7 - 9K. 

 

My 212 area code is killing me.

 

lefty

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Anyone have experience switching from copper pipe to PEX and doing it themselves? Worth the cost and hassle?


In what manner are these old copper pipes "in bad shape " ? I am a retired pipe fitter and of all the old copper pipes I have removed I have never encountered any damage other than mechanical when they were used in a potable water system . They have only been using thin wall copper tubing in these systems since the 1930s so a lot of what I have seen is probably close to that age

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Goddamn. Getting quotes for a new metal roof on my cabin - straight shed runs, 1340 sq ft' in total. 7 - 9K. 

My 212 area code is killing me.

lefty

I'd be tempted to take that on myself . . .
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In what manner are these old copper pipes "in bad shape " ? I am a retired pipe fitter and of all the old copper pipes I have removed I have never encountered any damage other than mechanical when they were used in a potable water system . They have only been using thin wall copper tubing in these systems since the 1930s so a lot of what I have seen is probably close to that age

From what I can tell there is some corrosion on the inside as well as the outside from some of the pieces I've cut off. That might not be enough to redo the house, but we've been redoing almost everything else and it got me thinking about my options.
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In what manner are these old copper pipes "in bad shape " ? I am a retired pipe fitter and of all the old copper pipes I have removed I have never encountered any damage other than mechanical when they were used in a potable water system . They have only been using thin wall copper tubing in these systems since the 1930s so a lot of what I have seen is probably close to that age

From what I can tell there is some corrosion on the inside as well as the outside from some of the pieces I've cut off. That might not be enough to redo the house, but we've been redoing almost everything else and it got me thinking about my options.


Well you certainly know better than I do if there is internal corrosion just unusual in my experience.At any rate copper is definitely a more difficult installation than pex even for a skilled installer but you shouldn't base your decision on the difficulty of sweating a joint .It is actually very easy and reliable when properly cleaned and fluxed. a little bit of practice with heat control and anyone can do it. Even a plumber

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I'd be tempted to take that on myself . . .

 

When can you come up? This is not my skillset.

 

lefty

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Adding Dricore to our downstairs playroom. Should help with a +10 degree increase over traditional flooring on cement.
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When can you come up? This is not my skillset.

lefty

No offense intended! For some reason I was under the impression that you were a big DIY type.

I have a very simple roof and when I was paying to get a new roof put on (seller and I split the cost) I remember thinking that metal roofing seemed pretty straightforward in situations where the roof architecture was very simple.

To be fair, all roofing seems pretty straightforward with uncomplicated roofs, but the whole vodoo of certain nailing points and overlay distances is much scarier to me than metal for some reason.
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