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post #3511 of 5749
Outlets boxes are almost always attached to a stud on one side or the other. From there you can probably extrapolate the rest of the studs' positions if they're 16" on center.

Also you can use a magnet to find the studs by looking for the nails or screws holding the drywall on. That's another good suggestion.
post #3512 of 5749
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Were you originally trying to go for wood/ceramic look, or always intending for the LED/glass style?

I was never going for the wood look. There's a wood burning fireplace there right now so I'd stick with the real thing. I am not a fan of gas fireplaces that try to not be gas fireplaces.

As to stud finders...I can't use them as they always point to me. rimshot.gif
post #3513 of 5749
Ah okay, was just wondering what style you were going for.
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Anybody have a cabin? We were up in Michigan last week and loved it. They're pretty cheap and you can get a decent one for less than 100k. What are the draw backs?
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Michigan cabins are the best. Where are you looking? are you going to use it for snow sports as well? if not, winterizing is absolutely essential. There are some great deals up there.

post #3516 of 5749
We'll being a native of Texas I don't know anything about winter sports so it'd probably be for the summer though I wouldn't be opposed to coming in fall and spring. I'd like to keep it within a 4 hr drive of where we live so I think that means about Cadillac or South. We're not actually at the stage of really buying yet but I am investigating owning. Again being from Texas I know absolutely nothing about the pitfalls. I'd like a lot of privacy so several acres would be necessary and probably lots of trees too. Access to water would be nice as well. Oh, and indoor plumbing, my wife has ruled out an outhouse haha.
post #3517 of 5749
Running into deer after dark = big drawback.

I don't want vacation property as everyone I know with one feels like they need to spend all their vacation time there and seem to spend a material amount of time/money keeping it up. Seems like places that sit empty take more care than places being lived in based on my observations.
post #3518 of 5749
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Anybody have a cabin? We were up in Michigan last week and loved it. They're pretty cheap and you can get a decent one for less than 100k. What are the draw backs?

On the lake?
My grandparents had one in southwestern MI my entire childhood through about 2 years ago and it was fucking awesome. If they had waited like 2 more years to sell it, I would have made some very poor financial decisions in order to become the proud owner of it.

But you aren't going to find properties by the big lake like that for under $100k (at least not anywhere drivable from Chicago). And even the ones that are on cheaper side are all getting bought out and either torn down to replace with a McVacationHomes or are getting gutted and renovated with overly high end finishes.

To me, a cabin like that should be low maintenance and low amenity. Something to go escape from the day to day. Don't have to worry about grinding sand into your rare hardwood floor because you don't have them. Don't need huge bedrooms, just need room to sleep a lot of friends. Etc.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Running into deer after dark = big drawback.

I don't want vacation property as everyone I know with one feels like they need to spend all their vacation time there and seem to spend a material amount of time/money keeping it up. Seems like places that sit empty take more care than places being lived in based on my observations.


This is my thought on vacation property as well.  Unless you are monitizing the property in some way, I find vacation property a tough purchase due to utilization being so low.

post #3520 of 5749
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Running into deer after dark = big drawback.

I don't want vacation property as everyone I know with one feels like they need to spend all their vacation time there and seem to spend a material amount of time/money keeping it up. Seems like places that sit empty take more care than places being lived in based on my observations.

Being in the Northeast it's almost mandatory to buy a second home at the beach by your 40s, but I see so many families that are slaves to "pack it all up" every Friday night and then do it all over again on Sunday night, fighting traffic both ways. They disappear until school is back in session, and I honestly think that at least half of them only do it because they spent so much money on the house, they feel obligated to use it every weekend. We've considered a condo in the city, to make it easier to go to sporting events, shows, dinners, etc... because then it's not about running down every weekend, we'd use it on random nights whenever the mood struck.
post #3521 of 5749
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Running into deer after dark = big drawback.

I don't want vacation property as everyone I know with one feels like they need to spend all their vacation time there and seem to spend a material amount of time/money keeping it up. Seems like places that sit empty take more care than places being lived in based on my observations.

Well the idea is that it would be close enough we could pop up often and get a lot of use out of it. As far as maintenance, well that's the cost of owning I guess.
post #3522 of 5749
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On the lake?
My grandparents had one in southwestern MI my entire childhood through about 2 years ago and it was fucking awesome. If they had waited like 2 more years to sell it, I would have made some very poor financial decisions in order to become the proud owner of it.

But you aren't going to find properties by the big lake like that for under $100k (at least not anywhere drivable from Chicago). And even the ones that are on cheaper side are all getting bought out and either torn down to replace with a McVacationHomes or are getting gutted and renovated with overly high end finishes.

To me, a cabin like that should be low maintenance and low amenity. Something to go escape from the day to day. Don't have to worry about grinding sand into your rare hardwood floor because you don't have them. Don't need huge bedrooms, just need room to sleep a lot of friends. Etc.

Haha, no there isn't anything on Lake Michigan for less than 100K. Besides, for the space I want there REALLY isn't anything on the lake for that price. Luckily MI is chockablock with lakes and rivers. And yes, small and simple us what I would want.

Sorry, multi quote isn't working
post #3523 of 5749
The lot is kinda small but this would be pretty good

http://idx.exitbellaire.com/idx/14109/details.php?idxID=248&listingID=1798117
post #3524 of 5749
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I don't want vacation property as everyone I know with one feels like they need to spend all their vacation time there and seem to spend a material amount of time/money keeping it up. Seems like places that sit empty take more care than places being lived in based on my observations.

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This is my thought on vacation property as well.  Unless you are monitizing the property in some way, I find vacation property a tough purchase due to utilization being so low.

That's exactly why it needs to be accessibly close and built with incredibly low maintenance finishes (or you just have to have enough money to pay someone else for upkeep).

A lake house 1.5 hours out of the city isn't the same as owning something in Aspen and thus feeling like you have to go ski there every winter. It can be a summer home...you have friends out there, and you can easily invite your friends from the city to join you as well. You go up on the weekends not because you feel compelled to, but because you like it better than a hot, sticky city filled with tourists.

Of course, I think things are changing a bit now that there are so many more dual income families. A lot of those sorts of properties used to involve the wife and kids spending the entire summer living there while the husband drove or took the train for the weekend. Kids had summer programs out there, etc. When it became time for an actual "vacation" you could still travel somewhere (or if you want to save money, just take a week at the summer home). Now you can't do that if both parents work.

Probably makes even less sense if you are DINKs like piob since there is less need for a consistent place for children (complete with children toys and accessories) when it is easy enough to pack two bags and jet off to some nice hotel. At that point, you'd probably only do it for hobby reasons (especially hobbies that require a lot of gear). Love fishing or windsurfing or hiking in the woods? Love smoking meat but can't have some big wood burning smoker in the city? A little hobby shack in the woods might be perfect...you have room to store everything and can have all sorts of weird shit that they don't provide at hotels or rental houses.
post #3525 of 5749
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

The lot is kinda small but this would be pretty good

http://idx.exitbellaire.com/idx/14109/details.php?idxID=248&listingID=1798117

Sweet. Little too rustic for me, but otherwise yeah, that's pretty much the right kind of thing.

Yeah, if you want the lake for a similar size place, you are going to pay a lot more. This was the cheapest thing I found in a short look (and Holland is about twice as far as I would want to drive): http://cottagehomerealty.com/properties/419-crest-dr-holland-mi-49424/

I think I have posted this one before...it is right by where my grandparents were. Massively overpriced on account of the giant lot it sits on, but I wouldn't mind owning that property...
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