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post #2986 of 5753
We have grohe fixtures in our house and the plumber said they were junk when he found out they came with the house.
post #2987 of 5753
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Both Grohe and Hans G considered top shelf makers in Europe. I am not sure if it is 100% accurate for US market but I have read that H. Grohe is 100% German made while Grohe is not.

Hansgrohe definitely isn't 100% German made anymore.  See the link below.

 

http://www.hansgrohe-int.com/20500.htm

 

I do think Hansgrohe makes some of the best products on the market though.  Their engineering definitely is German. 

 

I am not sure about Grohe but the build quality is poor. 

post #2988 of 5753
This is a noob question, but what makes Hansgrohe vs Grohe vs Kohler vs Pfister vs whoever so much better? I mean, what does spending $700 for a kitchen faucet get me over going to Lowe's or HD and buying a $150 one?
post #2989 of 5753
It's just a faucet. Unless your neighbors are all faucet aficionados the money is basically wasted when you go to sell the house.

As a practical matter for me the most important thing would be the ease of removing the flow limiter. Boy do I hate low-flow kitchen faucets.
post #2990 of 5753

We bought Pfister faucets which were not too expensive.  Maybe $200 for faucet and valves.  Install was the expensive part...


Edited by jbarwick - 2/6/15 at 9:08am
post #2991 of 5753
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

It's just a faucet. Unless your neighbors are all faucet aficionados the money is basically wasted when you go to sell the house.

My intent is to buy it to use. I'm not ever planning to sell this house, regardless of whether I live here, so for my interests I want something extremely well made and durable. The way it feels in your hand is important to me, the weight and quality, etc. Sorta like that feeling you get when you shut a 911's door.
post #2992 of 5753
I like Fantini a lot more than Dornbracht. Dornbracht looks like it should be in a house with a lot of black and white leather. In other words, douchebag.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

This is a noob question, but what makes Hansgrohe vs Grohe vs Kohler vs Pfister vs whoever so much better? I mean, what does spending $700 for a kitchen faucet get me over going to Lowe's or HD and buying a $150 one?

 

No one needs a Dornbracht facet but if it is something you interact with a lot and you enjoy using it could be worth it.  I had a single handle Grohe kitchen faucet which had trim that would fall off all the time....but if you pick carefully you can get a nice long lasting faucet for a couple hundred.  When you get to high end stuff the design can get better.

 

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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

It's just a faucet. Unless your neighbors are all faucet aficionados the money is basically wasted when you go to sell the house.

As a practical matter for me the most important thing would be the ease of removing the flow limiter. Boy do I hate low-flow kitchen faucets.

 

If you do anything custom you shouldn't expect to get that money back...it's about your enjoyment.  If you live in a place for a while I don't think improvements that you like and enjoy are a waste.

 

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I like Fantini a lot more than Dornbracht. Dornbracht looks like it should be in a house with a lot of black and white leather. In other words, douchebag.

Fantini is more design oriented where Dornbracht is more about heavy build quality...at the end of the day they will likely both last longer than anyone would want to keep them.

post #2994 of 5753
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No one needs a Dornbracht facet.

You don't need 99% of the things mentioned in this thread, but they are nice to have.
post #2995 of 5753
I'd rather spend a bit more and get something well made then buy some high margin junk and replace it when it annoys me in a few years.

Speaking of which, my 'bar', which is the cabinetry under my counter on one side is nearly complete. Waiting for the weather to warm up so that I can veneer the panels, something I can't do in my shop currently.

Now that this is nearly wrapped up I have designs on building interior doors for my house. This will be a very long project, but the results will be a huge improvement to the interior over the garbage contractor grade we currently have. The total will be 2 sets of sliding doors, two or three single sliding doors and 5 hinged doors. I also have a set of folding doors which I'll have to either convert into something else entirely, and one set of French doors.

Since I'm not a factory and don't plan on becoming one, this will have to be one floor at a time.
Edited by SkinnyGoomba - 2/6/15 at 11:08am
post #2996 of 5753

We used Hansgrohe in the bathroom, but bought a Waterstone faucet for the kitchen. It's a serious piece of hardware, weighing close to 15 pounds as the entire thing is CNC milled from blocks of stainless steel. They use the same ceramic filters as Dornbracht. It might start to leak sometime in the 2050s, and to Ataturk's point we always say that we are going to exclude it from the sale when we eventually put this place on the market :)

post #2997 of 5753
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

My intent is to buy it to use. I'm not ever planning to sell this house, regardless of whether I live here, so for my interests I want something extremely well made and durable. The way it feels in your hand is important to me, the weight and quality, etc. Sorta like that feeling you get when you shut a 911's door.

Indeed. That's why I always insist on lead pipes. Talk about heavy! They're just leaching old world craftsmanship into every drop of water in the house.

I'm not going to knock somebody for enjoying nice stuff. Not here, anyway.
post #2998 of 5753
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Indeed. That's why I always insist on lead pipes. Talk about heavy! They're just leaching old world craftsmanship into every drop of water in the house.

I'm not going to knock somebody for enjoying nice stuff. Not here, anyway.

The lead is seeping into your writing satisfied.gif
post #2999 of 5753
For kitchens kwc is nice while avoiding dornbracht's euro douche look.
post #3000 of 5753
I am surprised by the Dornbracht hate in this thread. They make quality faucets but they aren't as stylized as others around the same price bracket.

KWC is not on the same level as Dornbracht from what I have seen. They seem more like an Axor alternative. I am soley basing this on how heavy they feel in use though. shog[1].gif
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