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actually bertoia.

Anyway, of course everything is derivative somehow, but there are many different traditions and good marketing has defined MCM/Danish and its progeny as the flavor of the day while many other, and often more interesting, schools of thought thrive outside the US but not inside. Unfortunately, the American market has not changed from when it was into period French or period English or whatever. It is still a period market, and has very little to do with anything other than a boxed set. B&B, or course, thrives in that situation. So do the Cassina Maestri. MDF Italia, Established, Glas Italia, Porro etc, not so much despite their more compelling designs. Not period and not Luxe de Luxe and you don't do well here.


Good point, those who survive long enough to become 'period' furniture have a short list of wealthy patrons or sell outside of america. Not everyone wants to take the route and end up making something that can be sold at the major retails so they can afford to continue making things that interest themselves.
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Though this was released in late '79 it is the best album of the '80s.

 

lefty

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I suspect that there is somewhere that carbon fiber could be used for its flex properties... Not an entire chair, but some key structural components on a lounge or office chair to help it conform to the user. Could allow some different shapes to be used--flexing a structural rib instead of compressing a spring, distributing loads/providing adjustment with Bowden cables.

Not sure how you would make this visually appealing, but they have made a lot of advances in carbon recently and doing carbon layup has gotten pretty cheap. Right now there are a lot of people who are essentially defense contractors fooling around in their spare time. Now they are mostly messing with things like previously impossible carbon repairs and exotic boat spars and bike parts, but it is only a matter of time before somebody starts messing with furniture.
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I suspect that there is somewhere that carbon fiber could be used for its flex properties... Not an entire chair, but some key structural components on a lounge or office chair to help it conform to the user. Could allow some different shapes to be used--flexing a structural rib instead of compressing a spring, distributing loads/providing adjustment with Bowden cables.
then again, plastic also flexes. And is cheap.

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Now they are mostly messing with things like previously impossible carbon repairs and exotic boat spars and bike parts, but it is only a matter of time before somebody starts messing with furniture.
carbon for boat/auto/bike stuff is used for carbon's performance. Light, stiff, absorbs shock, etc. It's worth paying this vs. other materials. IMO i'm not sure what the upgrade would be on furniture.
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vanity!
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ETF, I love 18c stuff, but it's an impossible target to hit in America unless you are fully capable of spending a fortune at Christies and Sotheby's. Quite literally you have a better chance at furnishing your house in Ruhlmann and spending less than you would furnishing it in 18c. In fact you probably could arrive at auction with money to spend and still spend a great deal of time curating furnishings for an 18c house. Not to mention finding the rare and obscure person who can actually restore 18c furniture and do so correctly.

18c Interiors, In America, were sparse to begin with because everything was made by cabinet shops and chair makers, so at the time the equivalent would be like attempting to furnish your place in Nakashima in his mid career. Yes, it was doable for some, but most would end up with just the major pieces. Considering how much is left on the market after 250~ years and you are left with a very small pool to draw from.

Then we have 19c, which while there are some fantastic makers of the period making 18c period works, the great majority was schlock and being pumped out by factories to fill victorian houses in which the owners were looking to display wealth by way of excess. Victorians, while I do enjoy them, were the McMansions of their day. Craftsman is the stand out from that period, certainly out of favor at the moment in design magazines, and probably much to the satisfaction of those who collect it.

There is a ton of great contemporary work; Jasper Morrison, Thomas Bo Kastholm, Tadao Ando, Luciano Bertoncini, Craig Bassam, Alfred Homann, ect.

Yes it's not cheap. I like furniture that shows its life, has some knocks and bashes, old repairs etc. It has a sort of wabi-sabi appeal for me. It also fits in with the lived-in country house look we're trying to achieve. I do have a couple of guys I use for restoration - they generally want to go much further toward perfection than I do. Which is all fortunate as it works out much cheaper.biggrin.gif
I generally buy at smaller local auctions outside of london, and from a handful of dealers I know, but I do get the odd piece from Christies and Bonhams. They both have regular interiors auctions in London at not so ludicrous prices. Earlier this year I got a lovely untouched Regency bow front chest of drawers (sun bleached but in a way I really dig) from Christies for less than the price of a replica eames recliner for instance, or half a van load of crap from ikea. All being well it should outlive me.
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Thinking of creating a laminated card that lists the provenance and the current market value of my furniture for my less furniture-literate neighbours.


Neighbors is used loosely, it's more friends and family, but bandwagon in high-end furniture is a thing (here) and it's really peculiar, when looking at it from the outside.


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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

For instance, If one were to start making carbon fiber chairs, I'm sure the place where they would start would something very similar to eames/saarinen before breaking from it.

A shop in Singapore did/does eames chairs in carbon fiber.

http://www.garageworksindustries.com/shop/garageworks
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That lounge chair in carbon looks awesome. I want one.
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Originally Posted by E,TF View Post

Yes it's not cheap. I like furniture that shows its life, has some knocks and bashes, old repairs etc. It has a sort of wabi-sabi appeal for me. It also fits in with the lived-in country house look we're trying to achieve. I do have a couple of guys I use for restoration - they generally want to go much further toward perfection than I do. Which is all fortunate as it works out much cheaper.biggrin.gif
I generally buy at smaller local auctions outside of london, and from a handful of dealers I know, but I do get the odd piece from Christies and Bonhams. They both have regular interiors auctions in London at not so ludicrous prices. Earlier this year I got a lovely untouched Regency bow front chest of drawers (sun bleached but in a way I really dig) from Christies for less than the price of a replica eames recliner for instance, or half a van load of crap from ikea. All being well it should outlive me.

Would love to see some of this stuff also. Sounds very cool.

I attempted to find someone who does French Polish local to me for a small cabinet I made a few years ago. One guy quoted me $5000 and needed the piece for over a year….So I ended up finding someone who was good with lacquer, since it was a new piece it's good, but on an 18c antique I would either need to pick up the technique or pay someone.

In europe last year I stumbled upon someone who french polishes all of the boxes he makes, and didn't make a very big deal out of it either.
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Originally Posted by E,TF View Post


Yes it's not cheap. I like furniture that shows its life, has some knocks and bashes, old repairs etc. It has a sort of wabi-sabi appeal for me. It also fits in with the lived-in country house look we're trying to achieve. I do have a couple of guys I use for restoration - they generally want to go much further toward perfection than I do. Which is all fortunate as it works out much cheaper.biggrin.gif
I generally buy at smaller local auctions outside of london, and from a handful of dealers I know, but I do get the odd piece from Christies and Bonhams. They both have regular interiors auctions in London at not so ludicrous prices. Earlier this year I got a lovely untouched Regency bow front chest of drawers (sun bleached but in a way I really dig) from Christies for less than the price of a replica eames recliner for instance, or half a van load of crap from ikea. All being well it should outlive me.

Sounds like this is right up your alley.

http://www.drewpritchard.co.uk


I love his TV show. shog[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

If you do't mind you may share a few pics here: http://www.styleforum.net/t/330331/antiques-antiques-auctions-recent-purchases-and-discussion

I'll take some photos some time.
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Would love to see some of this stuff also. Sounds very cool.

I attempted to find someone who does French Polish local to me for a small cabinet I made a few years ago. One guy quoted me $5000 and needed the piece for over a year….So I ended up finding someone who was good with lacquer, since it was a new piece it's good, but on an 18c antique I would either need to pick up the technique or pay someone.

In europe last year I stumbled upon someone who french polishes all of the boxes he makes, and didn't make a very big deal out of it either.

One of the restorers I know, who's also a cabinet maker, does proper french polishing but says it's a real bitch because his workshop generally has loads of saw dust floating around in the air, which is your worst enemy when french polishing. So he has to spring clean the place, then do nothing at all in there for a while to let everything settle, before he can start polishing. I guess all that gets worked into the price.
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Sounds like this is right up your alley.

http://www.drewpritchard.co.uk


I love his TV show. shog[1].gif

He's got some nice stuff. Just about having an eye for what your clients will like. Being able to take a decent photo helps. This is another I like - http://www.milesgriffithsantiques.co.uk/
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I enjoyed reading the preceding 30-40 posts but this talk always leaves me so confused and conflicted.
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I enjoyed reading the preceding 30-40 posts but this talk always leaves me so confused and conflicted.

You are very criptic man. Your post leaves me confused as well.
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