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post #331 of 550
1/9/13 at 4:32pm
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There are so few that it's statistically less likely to see it than the animals you quote. Not to mention they're nocturnal and know you're there ages in advance of any approach. I'm being speculative here, but ya, its not surprising to me he's never seen one.
Gotta give that credit. Touche.

In all seriousness (in this very serious thread), if they are in fact mostly hominid, they they are way smarter than forest animals.

I heard from one of the experts that they avoid places where humans have been. Their sense of smell is supposedly remarkable and this could explain why they are so elusive.
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post #332 of 550
1/9/13 at 5:53pm
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Actually, there are about 15 million licensed hunters in the U.S. Let's add to that an enormous number of other outdoor enthusiasts--campers, hikers, mountain bikers, rock climbers, etc.--as well as people whose work takes them into the woods. An absolutely minuscule percentage of these so much as claim to have seen a Bigfoot.
Also those nature cameras you've mentioned before.
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There have been maybe two or three jaguars that have entered the USA in recent years, yet these elusive animals, with much better natural camouflage than a BF is supposed to have, were photographed and documented, yet the "ten thousand" Bigfoots you claim manage to avoid ever catching a bullet or even getting an unimpeachable photo taken of them.

The Planet Earth guys managed to hunt down and get awesome HD footage of Amur leopards in Siberia and snow leopards (in a blizzard nonetheless) hunting in the Himalayas, among other rare critters. The Japanese just managed to film a giant squid of all the damn things, at ~1000m down. Bigfoot hunters must be rather inept.
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post #333 of 550
1/9/13 at 6:18pm
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I heard from one of the experts that they avoid places where humans have been. Their sense of smell is supposedly remarkable and this could explain why they are so elusive.

Well, since every wooded quarter-section seems to have its resident Bigfoot these days, the big guys must be having a helluva time avoiding places where humans have been. How does anybody know anything about their sense of smell? Some reports claim they stink horribly.

As I have said before, that something might be lurking undetected in the cold jungles of the coastal Pacific Northwest and in the adjacent forested mountains in their hinterland, I might concede as remotely possible. When they are running around in places like Missouri, Oklahoma or Ohio, I discount the reports altogether.
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post #334 of 550
1/9/13 at 6:31pm
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Actually, there are about 15 million licensed hunters in the U.S. Let's add to that an enormous number of other outdoor enthusiasts--campers, hikers, mountain bikers, rock climbers, etc.--as well as people whose work takes them into the woods. An absolutely minuscule percentage of these so much as claim to have seen a Bigfoot.

There have been maybe two or three jaguars that have entered the USA in recent years, yet these elusive animals, with much better natural camouflage than a BF is supposed to have, were photographed and documented, yet the "ten thousand" Bigfoots you claim manage to avoid ever catching a bullet or even getting an unimpeachable photo taken of them.

Funny you say this, I was at a NYE party where one of my best friends brother in law was. My clever daughter commented how I was obsessed with Bigfoot so obviously without a hitch I tucked right in. His bro-i-l actually admitted to a sighting in Maryland, he hunts. I kid you not. Lots of shaking heads, but he said it. He owned the discussion after that and recounted what he saw in detail.

A number of hunters are on record as shooting/shooting at a BF. I'd suggest BF know what guns are. They'd be attracted to these sounds, so its clear they'd understand that shot = a deer SOL. And some hunters cut them open right then and there. I read a biologist once commenting hunters probably teach the BF more about us than any other human activity. The clear message to them is these fuckers can kill so stay the fuck away.

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Also those nature cameras you've mentioned before.
The Planet Earth guys managed to hunt down and get awesome HD footage of Amur leopards in Siberia and snow leopards (in a blizzard nonetheless) hunting in the Himalayas, among other rare critters. The Japanese just managed to film a giant squid of all the damn things, at ~1000m down. Bigfoot hunters must be rather inept.

Right, with $ and quality equipment and TIME. They spend months out there. That snow leopard doc, that guy spent almost a year out there to catch a few fleeting clips.

The last episode of the finding BF show, the guy recorded some BF howls and it happened on the 16th day. These BF 'researchers' are clowns with regular jobs.

You can't compare its intelligence to a leopard. This is not just about camouflage. Its an animal that knows what we are and is actively trying to avoid us.

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Well, since every wooded quarter-section seems to have its resident Bigfoot these days, the big guys must be having a helluva time avoiding places where humans have been. How does anybody know anything about their sense of smell? Some reports claim they stink horribly.

As I have said before, that something might be lurking undetected in the cold jungles of the coastal Pacific Northwest and in the adjacent forested mountains in their hinterland, I might concede as remotely possible. When they are running around in places like Missouri, Oklahoma or Ohio, I discount the reports altogether.

Well, my friends brother in law admitted to a sighting in Maryland.

They are noted to stink horribly in Florida, this skunk ape. Right Guard could make a fortune marketing to them.

Hominids are smart. I have a next door neighbor, elderly lady, I might see her once in 3 months, she's never around. I have moments where I can hear her garage door opening and I have time to, dunno, slip behind a tree, go inside, turn the corner of my house, if I tried, I could probably go years without seeing her. It's just not that hard to do.
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post #335 of 550
1/9/13 at 7:26pm
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Funny you say this, I was at a NYE party where one of my best friends brother in law was. My clever daughter commented how I was obsessed with Bigfoot so obviously without a hitch I tucked right in. His bro-i-l actually admitted to a sighting in Maryland, he hunts. I kid you not. Lots of shaking heads, but he said it. He owned the discussion after that and recounted what he saw in detail.

Well, what were the details? Was he hunting? As I have remarked before, a pity he couldn't have plugged and ended the mystery then and there!
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post #336 of 550
1/9/13 at 8:16pm
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Well, what were the details? Was he hunting? As I have remarked before, a pity he couldn't have plugged and ended the mystery then and there!

First of all, this guy is an off the boat total redneck, but also a very nice, honest, hard working guy. The type that doesn't articulate well, if you understand.

This is what he described:

He was hunting with a construction buddy on a day where it snowed lightly enough to cancel work for the day to go and cap a few rabbits. These guys are the types that have never heard of hunting permits.

He said his and his buddy were on opposite edges of a field and were trying to flush rabbits into the open of the dormant field and were on the edge of some woods. He said he noticed something dark and substantial and snap judgement assumed it was a tree stump or something. didn't think twice. He sort of indicated the background didn't change for a long time as he was working the brush at the edge of the field prly 100 yards away from the 'stump'. As he worked the parallel edge to the 'stump' he was close enough to believe there was no rabbits and started to turn to the woods edge to meet up with his buddy and decide on a new spot to work.

He said he then went directly across the woods towards the 'stump' but not at the exact angle, then he noticed movement and realized that stump was not a stump and that it folded into the tree next to it. He said he stopped for a few seconds and decided the stump was never there, that he was never really focused on that spot and misread the terrain.

As he kept walking he said that something moved from behind the tree away from him right into the woods. It was huge, dark and walked on 2 feet. The deeper woods were not but a dozen feet away so it was a brief moment but he was very clear that what he saw didn't add up. He'd never heard of Bigfoot but said this was what he saw. Since he didn't have a frame of reference he dismissed it, as soon as I described what a BF looks like and its size, it was as if a puzzle piece snapped into place and he was desperate to tell everyone that's what he saw. Sensationalist? I dont know the guy very well but I didn't see a reason for him to lie.
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post #337 of 550
1/9/13 at 8:24pm
^^^ Call the Bigfoot show to do a piece
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post #338 of 550
1/9/13 at 8:59pm
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^^^ Call the Bigfoot show to do a piece

Haha, ya right, enough trouble with hoaxers... this shithead boffin on camera? He'd set the cause back a decade.
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post #339 of 550
1/9/13 at 9:10pm
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Haha, ya right, enough trouble with hoaxers... this shithead boffin on camera? He'd set the cause back a decade.

So not at all then.
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post #340 of 550
1/9/13 at 9:14pm
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^^ no way bro, but by choice. You think a guy wearing his favorite soccer teams sweatsuit with a thick ass accent would work? These are the kinds of guys that hunt in their construction clothes. Hunting in fluorescent? LOL That's for the softy that directs traffic.
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post #341 of 550
1/10/13 at 11:09am
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First of all, this guy is an off the boat total redneck, but also a very nice, honest, hard working guy. The type that doesn't articulate well, if you understand.

This is what he described:

He was hunting with a construction buddy on a day where it snowed lightly enough to cancel work for the day to go and cap a few rabbits. These guys are the types that have never heard of hunting permits.

He said his and his buddy were on opposite edges of a field and were trying to flush rabbits into the open of the dormant field and were on the edge of some woods. He said he noticed something dark and substantial and snap judgement assumed it was a tree stump or something. didn't think twice. He sort of indicated the background didn't change for a long time as he was working the brush at the edge of the field prly 100 yards away from the 'stump'. As he worked the parallel edge to the 'stump' he was close enough to believe there was no rabbits and started to turn to the woods edge to meet up with his buddy and decide on a new spot to work.

He said he then went directly across the woods towards the 'stump' but not at the exact angle, then he noticed movement and realized that stump was not a stump and that it folded into the tree next to it. He said he stopped for a few seconds and decided the stump was never there, that he was never really focused on that spot and misread the terrain.

As he kept walking he said that something moved from behind the tree away from him right into the woods. It was huge, dark and walked on 2 feet. The deeper woods were not but a dozen feet away so it was a brief moment but he was very clear that what he saw didn't add up. He'd never heard of Bigfoot but said this was what he saw. Since he didn't have a frame of reference he dismissed it, as soon as I described what a BF looks like and its size, it was as if a puzzle piece snapped into place and he was desperate to tell everyone that's what he saw. Sensationalist? I dont know the guy very well but I didn't see a reason for him to lie.

Where in Maryland was this? I know there is some fairly wild country in the far west of the state, but by and large Maryland doesn't seem like propitious habitat for BFs. Maybe the BF was going to pay a visit to his old friend the Blair Witch!

And, "he'd never heard of Bigfoot"? How could any sentient human being in contemporary America have grown to adulthood without ever having heard of Bigfoot? If he'd never heard of Bigfoot, how did the topic come up? Y'don't suppose it's remotely possible he cooked up the story to make himself the center of attention at a New Year's Eve party? Rather clever of him, if that's the case.
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post #342 of 550
1/10/13 at 11:34am
Do you know Star Wars?
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post #343 of 550
1/10/13 at 4:22pm
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Where in Maryland was this? I know there is some fairly wild country in the far west of the state, but by and large Maryland doesn't seem like propitious habitat for BFs. Maybe the BF was going to pay a visit to his old friend the Blair Witch!

And, "he'd never heard of Bigfoot"? How could any sentient human being in contemporary America have grown to adulthood without ever having heard of Bigfoot? If he'd never heard of Bigfoot, how did the topic come up? Y'don't suppose it's remotely possible he cooked up the story to make himself the center of attention at a New Year's Eve party? Rather clever of him, if that's the case.

It was somewhere north of Frederick MD, towards the PA border. I don't recall any more detail than that.

I grew up in Maryland, so no, its not a big state and pretty populated. But there are sightings, 32 reported here:

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/state_listing.asp?state=md

This dude's not from America, he's been here for a fair number of years, I think 20 or so, but the type of guy that never adapts to the culture and was not educated here and starts sentences with 'my friend,'. His English is pretty bad for someone with that much time in country. He doesn't watch American TV save for strip mall stuff. He said this happened about 10 years ago, so no, its pretty possible he's never heard of BF.

Sure its possible he was trolling. A bit of champagne can induce story telling. And he did have that group's attention. I asked him some detailed questions and he did ok. For example if it ever showed its whole body, could he tell its sex, shape of its head and body, did it walk funny, make any sounds, etc. He either knows BF and is lying or saw one. He said save for one or two times and telling his hunting buddy he's never thought about it again. It was news to his wife too.
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post #344 of 550
1/10/13 at 5:23pm
Hmmm, nowhere in Frederick County is the population density lower than 50 to 100 people per square mile, and over most of the county it is much more dense than that, yet you are telling me that an 8-foot tall ape-man can hide out there indefinitely unknown to science. Seems mighty hard to believe!
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post #345 of 550
1/10/13 at 5:30pm
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Hmmm, nowhere in Frederick County is the population density lower than 50 to 100 people per square mile, and over most of the county it is much more dense than that, yet you are telling me that an 8-foot tall ape-man can hide out there indefinitely unknown to science. Seems mighty hard to believe!

Well, I said north of Frederick near the PA border.
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