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Is it really satire against the counter-BLM movement?

I could see that... it's a little opaque, though. Maybe if I had some context...
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This actually is all support for it being a good comic.

I suppose if the comic is supposed to be a meta commentary on the situation. If the artist was attempting to advance a certain POV, though, it's less effective.
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I suppose if the comic is supposed to be a meta commentary on the situation. If the artist was attempting to advance a certain POV, though, it's less effective.

I said what I said as it's clear it has made some people think about the topic more than might have otherwise, and once one sees the true message, it's pretty apparent.
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Clearly BLM protestors water their plants too much.

In California, All Water Matters! Better save that shit.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

once one sees the true message, it's pretty apparent.
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Detroit frefireigthers had a policy whereby if a building is being engulfed, and no one or next door houses are at you you let it burn.
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Guys I have no idea where it is from and am not particularly following the #blm thing and it was perfectly clear to me. It is a good comic, don't let your bias get in the way...

LoL, what bias?
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

They were making the obvious point that saying "black lives matter" doesn't mean "only black lives matter" but rather "look at the way police are treating black people in the USA, you should care because black lives ALSO matter, just like yours". Basically if a house is on fire, it makes sense to focus on that particular house. Isn't the analogy patently obvious?


Not really since the statistics shows that whites are more likely to be shot by police = http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

 

And also that blacks kill other blacks 7 times more than whites kill black = http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

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Originally Posted by stylexchangemtl View Post

And also that blacks kill other blacks 7 times more than whites kill black = http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

Also blacks kill 2x more whites than other way around, at least when you look at complete FBI stats for 2014, blacks killed 409 whites while number of blacks killed by whites is 189 *

Can you imagine someone starting white lives matter movement over this?

Police work leaves a lot of to be desired in the USA, so it's not like the whole thing is non-issue but it's not limited to blacks only- it's mostly examples of black people get killed by police that generate so much outrage compared to other races getting killed. Also vast majority of police shootings are justified and even those we label here as unjustified are at least somewhat controversial not executions.



* https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

Also blacks kill 2x more whites than other way around, at least when you look at complete FBI stats for 2014, blacks killed 409 whites while number of blacks killed by whites is 189 *

Can you imagine someone starting white lives matter movement over this?

Police work leaves a lot of to be desired in the USA, so it's not like the whole thing is non-issue but it's not limited to blacks only- it's mostly examples of black people get killed by police that generate so much outrage compared to other races getting killed. Also vast majority of police shootings are justified and even those we label here as unjustified are at least somewhat controversial not executions.



* https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

2x more?!?! That's incredible. How many more whites are there than blacks again? Surely not more than 2 times...

Seriously, what are you getting at with those numbers?
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2x more?!?! That's incredible. How many more whites are there than blacks again? Surely not more than 2 times...

Seriously, what are you getting at with those numbers?

I am honestly puzzled what relevance the bolded has in this.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I am honestly puzzled what relevance the bolded has in this.

Just trying to straw man the shit out of "statistics" like a lot of these race baiting posters like to do in CE.

My point is to ask what is the reason for comparing the number of whites killed by blacks and vice versa? It hasn't been adjusted to take % of population into account or % of murders by race and their relative populations. "Twice as many" is fairly meaningless unless you're trying to convince stupid people of whatever your angle or point is.
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People claiming about a lack of diversity of Paul Ryan's intern staff after he posted some pictures.  How many non-white Republicans do you think there are in his congressional district?  Per Wikipedia, the district is 91% white.

 

http://time.com/4410815/paul-ryan-intern-selfie/?xid=time_socialflow_facebook

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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

Just trying to straw man the shit out of "statistics" like a lot of these race baiting posters like to do in CE.

My point is to ask what is the reason for comparing the number of whites killed by blacks and vice versa? It hasn't been adjusted to take % of population into account or % of murders by race and their relative populations. "Twice as many" is fairly meaningless unless you're trying to convince stupid people of whatever your angle or point is.

Well, of course, a rate would be a pretty good stat in this case and it's pretty undeniable blacks kill whites at a much higher rate. Pretty sure the same is consistent with most crimes against the person. As for the reason to compare this there could be many. I think a better question would be to seek out why this happens.
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